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Old August 9th, 2010, 08:28 AM #1
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AR15- Live round stuck in the chamber

Yesterday, while at the range , a shooting buddy had a live round stuck inside the chamber with the bolt partially closing, but never went into full battery. The charging handle wont operate and the rifle completely jammed.

This maybe due to an out of spec reloads or a dry AR.

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If you encounter this kind of jam... Do not panic. and do not use any kind of tool...yet.

MORTAR THE RIFLE: ( IF YOU OWN AN AR.. THIS IS A MUST READ...It can save your life or prevent injury)

With the muzzle pointed Up, Pull down on the stuck charging handle while you slam the butt of the rifle down on a flat surface. Inertia from this action , in most cases ...is sufficient enough to dislodge/ extract the stuck round.( to protect the rifle from scratches, slam it on a towel or your buddy's foot, In Duty or combat... just mortar the darn thing, preferably,on the enemy's head)

here is a more detailed procedure:
Follow these steps to help get that stuck round/case out:

Step 1: Remove the magazine from the rifle (if you have the BB installed), and flip on the safety if you are able to.

Step 2:Find a solid surface and put a piece of carpet or a floor mat on the surface so you do not mar up your butt stock / butt plate or even crack the buttplate. If there is a live round in chamber Treat the rifle as a loaded ready to fire rifle and make doubly sure that you are doing this in a safe area or in your backyard. Safety is flipped on (if you can flip it).

Step 3: If the round is partially out of chamber, apply some sort of lubricant down the barrel like CLP or even WD40. Give it about minute to go down the barrel and into the chamber.

Step 4: If your rifle has a collapsible stock, collapse it down all the way.Damage to the stock can occur if this is not done.

Step 5: Next, while the rifle is pointed up, raise the rifle approx. 6 inches from the ground and push the rifle down with a little force like you are hammering the carpet with your AR, and at the same time pull down on the charging handle. Don't hammer it down hard, just enough to help get the inertia going to help pull down the charging handle/bolt.

Step 6: Repeat if the round did not pop out the first time. Typically after the 2nd or 3rd attempt you will get movement and the round should pop out. If this does not work, try to go higher like 8-10 inches to create a stronger force/inertia, again while you are pulling down on the charging handle.

Step 7: Once you get the round/case clear from the chamber, Clean and Lubricate the rifle, and since it is an AR, keep the rifle lubricated at all times.

( From Addax tactical)

Also,
Never try to dislodge a live round or a stuck case in an AR with the bolt closed. That is like trying to open a bank vault with a toothpick.


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Dry Bolt Group... Action is partially locked. Mortaring your rifle can clear these difficult jams quickly. ( Plus,, Lube the damn thing... afterall, it's an AR)
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Old August 9th, 2010, 08:35 AM #2
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Thanks for the information. What is the best lube for the AR-15?
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Thanks for the information. What is the best lube for the AR-15?
That question is a hot topic. I will refrain from making any suggestions on that.

Personally.. I use Mobil1 synthetic motor oil and eezox. From experience, Any kind of lubricant will keep your AR running... you can run it dirty, as long as you run it lubricated. DI rifles also tend to vaporize the lubrication on the bolt carrier. A couple of drops of oil on the carrier during a long shooting session helps your AR function with the reliability of an AK.
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Old August 9th, 2010, 08:45 AM #4
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Gents,

This is a common occurrence with steel cased ammo such as Wolf particularly in very warm weather and/or under a heavy firing sequence where the weapon really heats up. The steel cases do not expand and contract like brass. The mortaring procedure is the answer...make sure you are safe and inform RSOs if present. Many folks aren't familiar with this malfunction drill, so be cognizant. Heavy lube with a good product like Slip EWL will help but it can still happen.
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This is very good information to share from some words of experience.

I remember at one of our early shoots seeing 3rdRcn solve someone's problem with their rifle in a similar manner and, being unfamiliar with the procedure, thought he was really abusing the thing out of frustration
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Holy crap did you just pull that bcg out of the bay or something?
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This is very good information to share from some words of experience.

I remember at one of our early shoots seeing 3rdRcn solve someone's problem with their rifle in a similar manner and, being unfamiliar with the procedure, thought he was really abusing the thing out of frustration
+1! The first time I took out my brand spankin' new AR, I had this problem. I was shown the mortar "Butt Slam" technique and it worked like a charm...


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I had this problem last year and was able to get onto the forum from my phone and get help ASAP while at the shooting location. Turns out my AR just doesn't like wolf ammo, I get 2 mags in and its jamapalooza..
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Good topic SCAR and you gave excellent instructions too.


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I had this problem last year and was able to get onto the forum from my phone and get help ASAP while at the shooting location. Turns out my AR just doesn't like wolf ammo, I get 2 mags in and its jamapalooza..
That can be fixed.
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Good topic SCAR and you gave excellent instructions too.




That can be fixed.
Really??? Its a 5.45 M&P AR, damn thing loves the corrosive stuff just hates wolf.
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