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Old August 4th, 2010, 05:00 PM #1
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multiple shell casing splits

I was shooting my Savage 17 hmr at the range today and noticed that 1 out of every 4 rounds that I shot had a split in the shell casing around the neck. I was shooting Remington Premier .17 HMR Magnum ammo, and shot about 150 rounds, and about 40 had splits in them. So would this be bad ammo, or what?

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Not sure if this applies but: http://www.remington.com/pages/news-...ll-notice.aspx

Yes, it is from last year.
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Not sure if this applies but: http://www.remington.com/pages/news-...ll-notice.aspx

Yes, it is from last year.
the ammo I was shooting was from last year, but I was using a bolt action savage 17 hmr...
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Now that is quite interesting. I read that warning not long after it was posted from Remington due to the fact that I shoot the .17HMR myself, however, it was for semi-auto and I use it in my revolver. My question is, I'd be really interested to see you mail that picture to Remington and tell them you'd like to know what the actual cause is for this. They tell you not to use it, but, the purpose of my post is what is the reason this happens.

Now, I'm going to check my cases after I shoot, about 20-30 shots, I get this odd sounding "pop", so, now I wonder if I have been missing something. I keep all of my .17HMR brass after I shoot, so, I'll have to go dig through the can and see what I can find.

side note: My reason for keeping 17HMR brass. I send them to a guy who makes custom drum cymbals. He makes something called a "sizzle" crash where he drills holes in the cymbals and it produces a "sizzle" or "rain" sound.
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side note: My reason for keeping 17HMR brass. I send them to a guy who makes custom drum cymbals. He makes something called a "sizzle" crash where he drills holes in the cymbals and it produces a "sizzle" or "rain" sound.

More details? That sounds cool! And why only .17?
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Now that is quite interesting. I read that warning not long after it was posted from Remington due to the fact that I shoot the .17HMR myself, however, it was for semi-auto and I use it in my revolver. My question is, I'd be really interested to see you mail that picture to Remington and tell them you'd like to know what the actual cause is for this. They tell you not to use it, but, the purpose of my post is what is the reason this happens.

Now, I'm going to check my cases after I shoot, about 20-30 shots, I get this odd sounding "pop", so, now I wonder if I have been missing something. I keep all of my .17HMR brass after I shoot, so, I'll have to go dig through the can and see what I can find.

side note: My reason for keeping 17HMR brass. I send them to a guy who makes custom drum cymbals. He makes something called a "sizzle" crash where he drills holes in the cymbals and it produces a "sizzle" or "rain" sound.
I will send a email to remington. I could tell everytime this happened, because the "pop" sounded different. I just hope this was not severe enough to cause damage to my rifle...
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For the brass to crack like that, there must be room for expansion at the neck, which either means the chamber is cut wrong, or the cartridge isn't fully seated.

I think you should check your headspace and make sure the barrel hasn't somehow moved forward in the action. [Can't see how it could - Savage rimfire barrels are usually pinned to the receiver]
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More details? That sounds cool! And why only .17?
He likes the longer brass of the .22 mag design and the .17 has a nice taper on the tip so he can slide his caps on and they are not so noticeable.
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I will send a email to remington. I could tell everytime this happened, because the "pop" sounded different. I just hope this was not severe enough to cause damage to my rifle...
exactly. And the "pop" was odd enough to catch my attention. When it happed, I took the rest of the rounds out of the revolver and inspected everything closely to see if maybe the lead got hung up in the barrel, but nothing, I never thought to check the brass casings, but, you bet I will now.
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For the brass to crack like that, there must be room for expansion at the neck, which either means the chamber is cut wrong, or the cartridge isn't fully seated.

I think you should check your headspace and make sure the barrel hasn't somehow moved forward in the action. [Can't see how it could - Savage rimfire barrels are usually pinned to the receiver]
I noticed the 3rd case was split at the neck, so, I wonder if it is a flaw in the transition from the .22 to the .17 Poor case design ? I have no problems with the Federals or the CCI .17 ammo at all.
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