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Old May 25th, 2010, 08:44 PM #1
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Bersa 380 CC vs. Ruger LCP

Being that the price ranges and cartridge are similar, I'm trying to decide which is a better option for CC. Any thoughts?

Ruger LCP



Bersa 380 CC

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Old May 25th, 2010, 09:00 PM #2
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The LCP is smaller if that's important to you. Both will be reliable for you.

The Bersa CC is a tad easier to shoot with less felt recoil. This is probably important for some as it will definitely affect how accurately a person shoots.

I have BIG hands so the Bersa CC fits me better (and I often carry a regular Bersa 380)

I don't recall the Ruger capacity (6 I think), but with either gun you're getting either 7+1 or less.

I know mags are expensive for the Bersa, and the Ruger mags are about $30 if you order them (includung shipping)
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do you care if you have a thumb safety or not?
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Yeah, thumb safety. I don't like them for carry guns. That, and the ruger is easier to conceal. Is it the most fun gun in the world to shoot? No, but you can definitely get used to it. Capacity of the ruger is 6+1, unsure about that particular bersa.
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For a primary, or backup gun, when you have room, definitely the Bersa. It has almost 3/4" more barrel, 2 more rounds, and can handle the very good Buffalo Bore 380+p HP defensive load(made better with a heavier recoil spring), where the LCP's manual expressley says to never use +p ammo. It could work in a pocket, and while I am no fan of thumb safetys, or DA/SA operation, the Bersa safety is not prone to engaging by accident when carried condition 2, safety off, hammer down. As long as you get a good one, it should be reliable, and accurate. Being blowback, the action is very simple, but can be snappy, altough a spring kit where you can choose a spring weight to match the load can help a great deal in most all blowback guns.

The LCP is a good backup, last ditch or deep concealment gun, that is carried either second to a larger pistol, or when nothing larger could be carried. It is difficult to shoot, difficult to load and rack, and the tiny barrel cuts a good bit of velocity, meaning that not only does it give up a lot of shootability to larger 380s, but the reduced velocity, inability to use +p ammo, and lower capacity really lowers it's firepower compared to the Bersa, and in a small pistol chambered in the marginal 380, this could be a big handicap if this is intended to be a carry gun. You are basically limited to FMJ if you want a load that penetrates reliably. Out of my LCP, few HP ammo expands at all, and those that do don't penetrate well at all, night and day from 380 I tested in my standard Bersa when I had it, most HP expanded, and some loads penetrated about the same as 9mm, most notably the Buffalo bore +p, although Golden Sabres weren't too bad either. The LCP is a 380 that can go where no other 380 can go, but for that it gives up a lot when absolute concealability is not required.
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I own a Bersa 380 CC, have held an LCP, though never shot one (or any gun that small for that matter). For starters, the CC model comes standard with 8 round magazines, as opposed to 7 on the standard model. I have no idea why that would be, but it is. Two extra rounds compared to the LCP's 6 round magazine is a pretty big difference when you're not starting with very many to begin with, and I would think especially so when dealing with a relatively low-powered round like .380 ACP, which may require more than just one or two shots.

Now that my Bersa has broken in over a few hundred rounds, and I've learned to shoot it better, the recoil is very comfortable and controllable. Even with its almost-non-existent sights, I can do decent work at 30 feet. The trigger isn't the greatest, but it's not bad, and certainly much lighter and easier than the LCP's DAO trigger. Note though that the safety and decocker are integrated, so there is no option to carry cocked and locked. The hammer must always be down to be safe when carrying, but there's no reason you can't flip the safety on to decock, and then flip the safety off.

You sure can't get any more compact than the LCP, but I don't see the need for a gun that small unless you're talking about pocket carry, or maybe the weight savings would be worthwhile in an ankle holster. Either way, I think it's hardly a "primary" gun if you can ever afford to carry anything bigger than the tiniest pistol possible. The Bersa CC is super comfortable to carry, and won't print at all IWB. It also fits nicely in a jacket pocket, or any other "larger" pocket.

If you're looking for a true-pocket pistol, or if absolute concealment is your highest priority, then by all means, there seem to be plenty of really happy LCP owners out there. I believe there are some members here with CCWs that carry them because a visible/printing gun is a biiiiig no-no in MD, even with the permit (or at least will get you harassed by the police). If you just want something small and light that's easy to carry and forget about, there's no reason to go any smaller than the Bersa CC IMHO.
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looked at an LCR or sp101? not much more money and not many less shots in something very concealable and reliable. can always carry extra cartridges loose in your pocket for tactical reloads or on speed loaders. also heavier .38 +p(.357 in the sp101) have much more badguy-stopping ability than .380. just figured i'd toss it out there.
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looked at an LCR or sp101? not much more money and not many less shots in something very concealable and reliable. can always carry extra cartridges loose in your pocket for tactical reloads or on speed loaders. also heavier .38 +p(.357 in the sp101) have much more badguy-stopping ability than .380. just figured i'd toss it out there.
The LCR is also now available in .357
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The LCR is also now available in .357
ouchh...i wanna shoot that about as much as the scandium framed .44 mag smith offers.
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Well i think it weighs 4 more oz than a standard LCR
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