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Old April 27th, 2010, 09:18 PM #1
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Dependency on two hand shooting

Another pitfall of only doing traditional marksmanship training, no matter how fast and accurate you are, is the dependency on having two hands on the gun. It is a handgun and not a handsgun. For those who think you will just be able to effectively shoot one handed without doing so, try hitting a baseball with one hand as someone pitches to you. Sure, it can be done but it takes work because you have wired yourself to use two hands on the bat.

We can see in the picture below that what we have is essentially an arrow pointing at the threat. On many square ranges we don't need to move, but it is not even allowed. There is nothing else we do besides shooting a pistol in which we hold weight extended out in front of us...nothing. It is totally unnatural for us. This not only encourages task fixation and tunnel vision, but it is also not conducive with any controlled movement except for moving forward. And even then the extended weight at the end of our arms is going to be bouncing.



Science also tells us that muscles contract under stress. What we have found is that during force on force training when the shooting is in the traditional two handed shooting position and they are aggressively attacked with edged or impact weapons, instead of moving to their flanks and using their weak hand to defend against the attack, they just hold onto the gun and get slashed or hit.

The reaction side hand is both your rutter and control hand. It may be for judging your distance from cover, opening doors, holding a light, or taking physical control of your loved one. and open hand combatives.

Try walking around your house with a cleared pistol in the two handed shooting position and see how comfortable it is. When you work one handed, you are also likely to find out that transitioning between hands depending on the need is much easier as well. Whenever something is in the middle, it creates mental confusion as to which side is in control. That is why so many balls get dropped in center field. You point equally well with both hands.

This is where owning a Blue Gun that fits your carry holster is worth it's weight in gold.
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Old April 27th, 2010, 09:31 PM #2
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I read this article by Massad Ayoob where he explained you should hold the gun as tight as you can. This was contrary to what I'd been told before; I previously told not to hold it too tightly as "You can't stop recoil." Ayoob's logic was tighten your grip until you hand shakes because in the real world your hand is going to be shaking so you might as well get used to it now.

What's your opinion on this?
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ANOTHER excellent point. Thanks.
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Very informative as always. I read these posts as often as I can, since this is practical information that I can use once I get a handgun.
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Sounds reasonable to me
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Always happy to read such an informative and detailed post. Thanks mercop!
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Ooh, this is interesting!

A thought that occurred to me while I was reading this is that a loaded 1911 (only handgun I've got) is not a particularly light gun, and walking around my house with outstretched arms would get tiring (although with adrenaline who knows?). Is there a generally accepted approach to this, or does it just consist of 'point it at the ground until you don't have to?'
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The part about two handed grip causing confusion I'll have to take w/ a grain of salt.
But more decades ago than care to admit, at the tender age I set out to master DA revolver control I started out delibertly doing equal practice with rt and left hands. While over the decades have gotten lazy with doing more strong hand, still make a point to keep left only "plenty good enough" , and always do some weak only each shooting session, and do remedial work if not up to snuff.
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Ooh, this is interesting!

A thought that occurred to me while I was reading this is that a loaded 1911 (only handgun I've got) is not a particularly light gun, and walking around my house with outstretched arms would get tiring (although with adrenaline who knows?). Is there a generally accepted approach to this, or does it just consist of 'point it at the ground until you don't have to?'
You would never clear an area with the gun outstretched, you would hold it at high ready, which is in close with wrists touching your chest. The reason for this hold is that when you turn a corner and the perp surprises you that you would still have the ability to shoot and it would be very difficult for them to grab your weapon and gain control. There are a couple of other reasons for this hold but it would be hard to demonstrate them from a keyboard.

Doing a single hand hold is something that needs to be practiced extensively as this can lead to one shooting themselves very easily, especially if you are clearing your house.
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