Bill introduced to eliminate the BATFE

swinokur · Jan 13, 2017

Trying to get a copy of the legislation.

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2017/...urce=badaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/12/rep-sensenbrenner-introduces-the-atf-elimination-act/

Press release

http://sensenbrenner.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=398088
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DC-W · Jan 13, 2017

Ooooookayyy...

Where the Hearing Protection Act has a chance and Reciprocity may have a chance, this is wishful thinking unlikely to move anywhere.

swinokur · Jan 13, 2017

I just report 'em sir.

Texas · Jan 13, 2017

Downsizing the Government should be a goal at this point. We could trim a lot of fat in the Dept of State.

Schipperke · Jan 13, 2017

DC-W said:
Ooooookayyy...

Where the Hearing Protection Act has a chance and Reciprocity may have a chance, this is wishful thinking unlikely to move anywhere.

Did I miss the legalization of Pot in Maryland?

5.56blaster · Jan 13, 2017

Texas said:
Downsizing the Government should be a goal at this point. We could trim a lot of fat in the Dept of State.

We could rid the government of half its employees and it would still function. Maybe put the fear of unemployment into them and they might work a little harder. The lady at the Baltimore VA office who told me, " Honey it be gonna take me a year or two to get to your paperwork "needs a wake up call! Pretty bad when I have to drive to another state to get any help. " YOUR FIRED"! What a concept!

redeemed.man · Jan 13, 2017

5.56blaster said:
We could rid the government of half its employees and it would still function. Maybe put the fear of unemployment into them and they might work a little harder. The lady at the Baltimore VA office who told me, " Honey it be gonna take me a year or two to get to your paperwork "needs a wake up call! Pretty bad when I have to drive to another state to get any help. " YOUR FIRED"! What a concept!

still function? Heck it would improve massively.

BigSteve57 · Jan 13, 2017

I believe Trump could simply overrule any or even all of BATFE's decisions.

Texas · Jan 13, 2017

5.56blaster said:
We could rid the government of half its employees and it would still function. Maybe put the fear of unemployment into them and they might work a little harder. The lady at the Baltimore VA office who told me, " Honey it be gonna take me a year or two to get to your paperwork "needs a wake up call! Pretty bad when I have to drive to another state to get any help. " YOUR FIRED"! What a concept!

That is my point. The common sense approach to government has been lost.

Boom Boom · Jan 13, 2017

Follow it up with eliminating the Department of Propaganda, uhm Education.

DC-W · Jan 13, 2017

j_h_smith · Jan 13, 2017

I think many of the problems associated with the BATFE is the way they've been told how to interpret the laws and what opinion are to be published. With the right person in charge, I do believe we can live with the BATFE. Honest, I really do...

rob-cubed · Jan 14, 2017

Schipperke said:
Did I miss the legalization of Pot in Maryland?

We have all the downsides of a liberal state with none of the benefits. :innocent0

From Wiki: ATF has 4,770 employees,[2] and an annual budget of $1.15 billion (2012).[3]

Like most other government agencies, there are crazy layers of obfuscation. If you ask for an opinion you'll get one, but I'd wager quite a few of us know way more about firearms and legalities than some of the agents I've talked to. They seem to be a lot like the MSP and their role in MD regulation, just at the Federal level.

Kman · Jan 14, 2017

Pay them maximum unemployment to sit on their asses at home or pay the larger salaries with benefits to sit on their asses in offices only to stir occasionally to molest your rights.

Punch in the face vs kick in the nads.

somd_mustangs · Jan 14, 2017

If BATFE did get eliminated, where would that functionality/oversight go? (they won't just repeal the 1968 GCA for instance).
It might be someplace even worse. Like DHS.

Allen65 · Jan 14, 2017

somd_mustangs said:
If BATFE did get eliminated, where would that functionality/oversight go? (they won't just repeal the 1968 GCA for instance).
It might be someplace even worse. Like DHS.

Most of the rumors are that the law enforcement functions would go to FBI, with maybe the policy stuff going up a level to DoJ.

Pinecone · Jan 14, 2017

5.56blaster said:
We could rid the government of half its employees and it would still function. Maybe put the fear of unemployment into them and they might work a little harder. The lady at the Baltimore VA office who told me, " Honey it be gonna take me a year or two to get to your paperwork "needs a wake up call! Pretty bad when I have to drive to another state to get any help. " YOUR FIRED"! What a concept!

The problem is, if you get rid of the wrong 1/2, it will not function at all.

Because the problem is top to bottom, so those incompetent at top, protect their buddies, who are also incompetent.

Pinecone · Jan 14, 2017

somd_mustangs said:
If BATFE did get eliminated, where would that functionality/oversight go? (they won't just repeal the 1968 GCA for instance).
It might be someplace even worse. Like DHS.

Did you read what was posted above?

The legislation states firearms and explosives to FBI, tobacco and alcohol to DEA.

BigSteve57 · Jan 15, 2017

Pinecone said:
Did you read what was posted above?

The legislation states firearms and explosives to FBI, tobacco and alcohol to DEA.

I'd worry that the BATFE idjits would just be rebadged as FBI or DEA.

Pinecone · Jan 15, 2017

Which is likely to happen.

Bill introduced to eliminate the BATFE

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