AR-15 Heavy Profile Barrels (HBAR)

alteredz · Jul 6, 2016

I'm building a 5.56 AR-15.

I'm having trouble finding the barrel that I'd like. Maybe no manufacturers make it:

Required: Heavy Profile (HBAR) (ugh, MD law)

Desired: (later option on each line is the preferred one)
Length: 16"
chamber/bore: 5.56 or Wylde .223
Mid-length gas system
Material: 4150 or 4140 steel
chrome-lined or melanized
M4 feed ramps
Rifling: 1:7 twist ratio

I've been on at least a dozen manufacturer or vendor websites and can never meet these criteria with one barrel.

Maybe it just isn't produced.

BTW, Brownell's lists HBAR and Heavy contours in their selection menu for barrels. I imagine I need one that is sold as (and marked) HBAR. Or will Heavy suffice?

Thanks in advance, Pete

aklax11 · Jul 6, 2016

DD S2W

https://danieldefense.com/16-mid-length-1-7-s2w-profile.html

Got it here for 170 when it was on sale https://www.westernsport.com/produc...-1-7-s2w-profile-stripped/#parentVerticalTab1

ashershapiro · Jul 6, 2016

Blackhole weaponry. They will even flute it, so you can save some weight. It doesnt have to say HBAR on it. I think their standard profile barrel meets HBAR specs.

atblis · Jul 6, 2016

Criterion has a few hbar offerings. They're pretty good barrels too.

atblis · Jul 6, 2016

Don't know if it's any good
http://www.deltateamtactical.com/AR...-556-NATO-223-Melonite-Finish-1-7_p_4419.html

Brad · Jul 6, 2016

here are a few I found helping a friend. I have one of the Faxon barrels and they are quite nice.

http://faxonfirearms.com/16-heavy-fluted-5-56-nato-mid-length-416-r-stainless-steel-qpq/

http://www.spintaprecision.com/223-wylde/ (spinta has several options)

White Oak Armament has several options as well

alteredz · Jul 6, 2016

Thanks for the leads!

Several have mentioned barrels that are heavy or S2W profile but aren't marked "HBAR".

Is the "HBAR" marking mandatory for MD?

Boom Boom · Jul 6, 2016

alteredz said:
Is the "HBAR" marking mandatory for MD?

No. But, if not present, the manufacturer must advertise it as HBAR or heavy barrel. Descriptions like "standard", "medium", and "government" are a no-go in lieu of the HBAR stamp. Bull barrels are generally acceptable as well.

aklax11 · Jul 6, 2016

alteredz said:
Thanks for the leads!

Several have mentioned barrels that are heavy or S2W profile but aren't marked "HBAR".

Is the "HBAR" marking mandatory for MD?

I just printed a pdf of the page on dd and where I bought it from and have it saved on my email and Dropbox

ericoak · Jul 6, 2016

Boom Boom said:
No. But, if not present, the manufacturer must advertise it as HBAR or heavy barrel. Descriptions like "standard", "medium", and "government" are a no-go in lieu of the HBAR stamp. Bull barrels are generally acceptable as well.

I call BS. If two barrels have the same profile, then they are either both HBAR or neither HBAR.

Biggfoot44 · Jul 6, 2016

There you go being logical, in a non-logical jurisdiction . Yes it's BS, but its intended to be BS on purpose.

mopar92 · Jul 6, 2016

ericoak said:
I call BS. If two barrels have the same profile, then they are either both HBAR or neither HBAR.

It's not BS. As an example the Colt LE6920 SOCOM is MD legal because Colt advertises it as such on their website.

The BCM SOCOM carbine is not MD legal as it is listed as a SOCOM profile, not an HBAR on their website.

Stupid? Yes but that's per MSP guidance.

rbird7282 · Jul 6, 2016

WOA barrels. Talk to Engage Armament in Rockville and see if they have any

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ericoak · Jul 6, 2016

mopar92 said:
It's not BS. As an example the Colt LE6920 SOCOM is MD legal because Colt advertises it as such on their website.

The BCM SOCOM carbine is not MD legal as it is listed as a SOCOM profile, not an HBAR on their website.

Stupid? Yes but that's per MSP guidance.

MSP has been wrong about plenty of things. They don't make the laws.

mopar92 · Jul 6, 2016

ericoak said:
MSP has been wrong about plenty of things. They don't make the laws.

Agreed but I'm far too pretty to be in jail over something as trivial as who stamped their logo on a barrel.

Do you have any idea what they'd do to someone as pretty as me in jail? I'd be passed around like a dollar bill at a vending machine convention.

ericoak · Jul 6, 2016

mopar92 said:
Agreed but I'm far too pretty to be in jail over something as trivial as who stamped their logo on a barrel.

Do you have any idea what they'd do to someone as pretty as me in jail? I'd be passed around like a dollar bill at a vending machine convention.

True, but I personally would rather have a heavy barrel profile barrel that was unmarked and unadvertised than a barrel that was marked or advertised but clearly isn't (like a grenade launcher cut out). Everyone has to make their own decisions though.

Steyr40 · Jul 6, 2016

During my build I chose to go with a barrel that was marked HBAR, just because I don't feel like having my time wasted, and my gun handled by who knows how many people until they figure out that it's legal. (Because all police officers know/understand the laws they enforce, right?) But, if you do go with an unmarked HBAR, why couldn't you just have it engraved onto the barrel?

sailskidrive · Jul 6, 2016

Get a White Oak barrel from Engage and be done with it. Mine is marked HBAR in three separate locations.

Someone else mentioned Kreiger Criterion barrels; I have one... very accurate button cut barrel!

alteredz · Jul 6, 2016

Steyr40 said:
During my build I chose to go with a barrel that was marked HBAR, just because I don't feel like having my time wasted, and my gun handled by who knows how many people until they figure out that it's legal. (Because all police officers know/understand the laws they enforce, right?) But, if you do go with an unmarked HBAR, why couldn't you just have it engraved onto the barrel?

This is my thinking too. I don't want any trouble when I take it to a range and someone in authority wants to quibble. I want it engraved with whatever is legal in MD. Sounds like that means it needs to have HBAR engraved on it by the manufacturer. I just don't like trouble like that. As someone else said, I don't want to waste my time.

stu929 · Jul 6, 2016

Love my white oak barrel

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