new 700 problem

gtodave · May 29, 2015

I was warned about Remington quality....

Check out my rail mounting holes on my brand new varmint barreled ADL. I'm going to call Remington for sure...would you guys trust a retap on this receiver? I plan to shoot this long range.

On a related note, does Nightforce expect you to drill and tab for larger screws with their rails? I just got one,and the screws are wider than the holes tapped (sideways) on the gun.

Caeb75 · May 29, 2015

A common thing to do in higher precision guns is to drill and tap for larger screws, and also lap and bed the bases or rail.

That said, that rifle should never have left the factory like that. Just curious, where did you buy it?

gtodave · May 29, 2015

Bought it at Cabela's, and I agree...never should have left the factory. It is very obvious when putting in the tiny screws that the holes are off.

I'm worried that they started the holes too far to one side, which will make drilling and tapping on the centerline very difficult.

Caeb75 · May 29, 2015

I would take it back there. They should make it right.

driver69911 · May 29, 2015

Absolutely, take it back. It'll never be right, if you start messing with it.

gtodave · May 29, 2015

Remington says they want to evaluate the gun, which means shipping it back most likely.

Caeb75 said:
A common thing to do in higher precision guns is to drill and tap for larger screws, and also lap and bed the bases or rail.

By the way, thanks for this info. I am brand new to bolt guns/precision shooting. This is my first non C&R bolt gun. I'm trying to learn as much as I can while setting it up.

BradMacc82 · May 29, 2015

Remington will likely ask you to ship it back, they should cover the shipping though.

gtodave · Jul 15, 2015

Update to this, in case anyone cares.

Remington had me ship the gun (they paid) to their preferred gunsmith in KY. I sent a screw from the Nighforce rail for them to use as a guide. I figured they'd need to drill out and re-tap the holes (if they were in line) anyways, so might as well do it to the spec I needed. I got a call from them a week or so later...conversation went like this:

Them: "These holes are right on the centerline...don't know why we're looking at this gun"
Me: "Because they are drilled at an angle"
T: "Let me check"....comes back 5 minutes later "Oh yeah, just a slight bit off"
I'm thinking that it's more than a 'slight bit', but whatever.
M: "So they're in line...that's good. What can we do about the hole angle?"
T: "We'll drill and re-tap"
M: "I sent a screw for you to match the threads to"
T: "We'll do it to factory spec, otherwise you'll be paying for the work, and freight, both ways"
M: "That makes no sense...it will be more work for you to put it to factory spec since you'll have to add metal back in, and re-blue the barrel"
T: "No, we'll just drill and re-tap"
M: "You can't do that to an off-center hole, especially with fine threads. There will be two sets of threads, and neither one will hold. You'd have to put metal back in"
T: "I mean, yeah, we'll put metal back in"

I could tell he was appeasing me. I've tapped my fair share of holes in my time (giggity), and I know you can't just re-do it at the same size. You either A) drill and tap for a bigger screw (easiest), B) Fill the hole, drill and tap, or C) tap wider and heli-coil for original size.

So he asked what I wanted to do...I said go with factory spec under warranty. I sent Remington an email telling them about the situation, and how I thought I'd be doing them a favor (saving labor costs) by letting them go bigger, and never got a response.

I got the gun back today, and they drilled for the Nightforce screws

. I guess either Remington gave Paducah the OK to go with the larger holes, or the gunsmith realized it'd be more work his way, and went with mine.

Now I just gotta see how it shoots.

J.T · Jul 15, 2015

are they straight this time?

eruby · Jul 15, 2015

The "giggity" in your update post made me laugh.

Lou45 · Jul 15, 2015

gtodave said:
Update to this, in case anyone cares.

Remington had me ship the gun (they paid) to their preferred gunsmith in KY. I sent a screw from the Nighforce rail for them to use as a guide. I figured they'd need to drill out and re-tap the holes (if they were in line) anyways, so might as well do it to the spec I needed. I got a call from them a week or so later...conversation went like this:

Them: "These holes are right on the centerline...don't know why we're looking at this gun"
Me: "Because they are drilled at an angle"
T: "Let me check"....comes back 5 minutes later "Oh yeah, just a slight bit off"
I'm thinking that it's more than a 'slight bit', but whatever.
M: "So they're in line...that's good. What can we do about the hole angle?"
T: "We'll drill and re-tap"
M: "I sent a screw for you to match the threads to"
T: "We'll do it to factory spec, otherwise you'll be paying for the work, and freight, both ways"
M: "That makes no sense...it will be more work for you to put it to factory spec since you'll have to add metal back in, and re-blue the barrel"
T: "No, we'll just drill and re-tap"
M: "You can't do that to an off-center hole, especially with fine threads. There will be two sets of threads, and neither one will hold. You'd have to put metal back in"
T: "I mean, yeah, we'll put metal back in"

I could tell he was appeasing me. I've tapped my fair share of holes in my time (giggity), and I know you can't just re-do it at the same size. You either A) drill and tap for a bigger screw (easiest), B) Fill the hole, drill and tap, or C) tap wider and heli-coil for original size.

So he asked what I wanted to do...I said go with factory spec under warranty. I sent Remington an email telling them about the situation, and how I thought I'd be doing them a favor (saving labor costs) by letting them go bigger, and never got a response.

I got the gun back today, and they drilled for the Nightforce screws . I guess either Remington gave Paducah the OK to go with the larger holes, or the gunsmith realized it'd be more work his way, and went with mine.

Now I just gotta see how it shoots.

Sounds like they had an easy-out (pun intended) with your requested screw size and went for it.

gtodave · Jul 16, 2015

J.T said:
are they straight this time?

Looks like it to me. The rail went on fine.

TWS@Tannermans · Jul 16, 2015

gtodave said:
Looks like it to me. The rail went on fine.

Is the rail a 20moa or 40moa

gtodave · Jul 16, 2015

TWS@Tannermans said:
Is the rail a 20moa or 40moa

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