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Old February 18th, 2014, 10:43 PM #1
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The iPhone of guns?

Didn't see this posted. I do remember a thread about smart guns but this article was just published.

One of California’s largest firearm stores recently added a peculiar new gun to its shelves. It requires an accessory: a black waterproof watch.

The watch’s primary purpose is not to provide accurate time, though it does. The watch makes the gun think. Electronic chips inside the gun and the watch communicate with each other. If the watch is within close reach of the gun, a light on the grip turns green. Fire away. No watch means no green light. The gun becomes a paperweight.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...e03_story.html
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My watch has a dead battery.... do I die in a gun fight?

If Iran fires a ship launched missile with EMP causing nuke that explodes at 50,000 ft off shore that fries my electronics.... will my gun function ?

The police / NSA / goobermint agency of choice decides to over ride the watch and shut down the guns...



So much fail, so little win
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Didn't see this posted. I do remember a thread about smart guns but this article was just published.

One of California’s largest firearm stores recently added a peculiar new gun to its shelves. It requires an accessory: a black waterproof watch.

The watch’s primary purpose is not to provide accurate time, though it does. The watch makes the gun think. Electronic chips inside the gun and the watch communicate with each other. If the watch is within close reach of the gun, a light on the grip turns green. Fire away. No watch means no green light. The gun becomes a paperweight.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...e03_story.html
There are several problems with these types of guns (e.g., RFID smart guns):

1. Any and all electronic technology will malfunction at some point due to ANY NUMBER OF FACTORS;
2. In that same vein, wear and tear from firing the gun will likely damage the electronics on board AND if you drop the gun it will probably be a paperweight;
3. The technology renders the gun cost prohibitive;
4. RFID is relatively easy to hack;
5. The gun only comes in .22 right now, let's see how it fairs with 9mm, .45acp, .40, and 10mm;
6. RFID is a proximity based technology so, in a struggle where an assailant goes for the firearm, the RFID accessory (i.e., watch or ring) is still in close proximity to the firearm which means that the assailant can still fire the gun if he secures it from the prospective victim; and,
7. In an emergency situation, especially for home break-ins, the owner will likely forget to don the watch or ring (is it an accessory you have to wear constantly so you won't forget it) so that he/she may use the firearm.

A fingerprint or palm print gun is a better solution but still subject to the all too present threat of technical failure.

The best solution that gun grabbers and hand-wringers could support is a federal bill providing free or subsidized bedside and full size gun safes with biometric access or other locks for firearms owners.
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Old February 18th, 2014, 11:15 PM #4
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call me distrustful, or a luddite, but I want NOTHING to do with this
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Old February 18th, 2014, 11:18 PM #5
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call me distrustful, or a luddite, but I want NOTHING to do with this
You and me both. Why don't they see if the military and police will use them.
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The bad news is that in NJ we have a smart gun mandate that is supposed to kick in when smart guns become available, and the AG certifies. All other guns will be banned from sale except smart guns.

So I'm buying up as many "dumb" guns as I can before this takes effect.
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You and me both. Why don't they see if the military and police will use them.
Oh they won't.

In NJ initially the smart gun law was for police, and the police unions went ballistic, saying it would endanger officer safety, that they need reliable guns etc. So the law carved them out an exemption and foisted it on the general public instead. But the irony is the law was meant ONLY for police, as an "officer safety" measure.
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Smith & Wesson had a revolver that was "activated" by a metal finger ring. I still see them on Gunbroker occasionally.
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My watch has a dead battery.... do I die in a gun fight?

If Iran fires a ship launched missile with EMP causing nuke that explodes at 50,000 ft off shore that fries my electronics.... will my gun function ?

The police / NSA / goobermint agency of choice decides to over ride the watch and shut down the guns...



So much fail, so little win
Or... The attacker is able to twist your smart gun out of your hands, and since the smart gun is still in proximity of the watch... Bang Bang??
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Any manufacturer that pushes this is going to get the same treatment that S&W did after their betrayal.

As for me, I'll stick with something that isn't possibly controlled by the same government that has given us NSA, IRS, EPA, etc overreaches
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