7.62x54r Surplus Training Ammo Availability?

• Jan 17, 2014

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tomandjerry00

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Anyone know where it is available at an affordable price?

I've seen it going for 60 cents a round, which seems a bit high to me.

Thanks!

 

• Jan 17, 2014

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Bertfish

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http://palmettostatearmory.com/inde.../ukrainian-7-62x54r-147gr-tmj-440rd-spam-can/

$92 shipped to me for 440 rounds. Not sure what you mean by "training" ammo but this is surplus like most folks shoot in their Mosin

 

• Jan 17, 2014

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Thanks! I have plenty of light ball for my mosin's.

The training ammo was mostly made by the Czechs and is 46 grains. Accurate to 200 yards and has the kick of a 22 magnum.

Great for new shooters and kids.

The light ball or "normal" surplus is more like a .308-30-06.

 

• Jan 17, 2014

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Bertfish

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I have never seen that sort of ammunition but would be interested to learn about it. Might be a way to convince my girlfriend to shoot the Mosin again.

Sorry for the unhelpful post though! I thought you might just be after typical surplus ammo.

 

• Jan 17, 2014

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erwos

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I have about 500rds of it in a 50cal can. Availability of it comes and goes. I think I paid 25c a round? It has a very short white rounded hollow bullet.

Be aware that it WILL NOT feed in a VEPR 54r (but it will cycle the gun... *sigh* what a tease). I'm basically keeping it around in case I ever get the itch to do a real Mosin scoped build one day, or if it ever skyrockets to Yugo M67 levels of stupid pricing.

 

• Jan 17, 2014

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Never be afraid to post with information you think may be useful! I appreciate it!

And erwos, that is just what I'm looking for! Any idea where you bought it or places to look?

 

• Jan 17, 2014

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erwos

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I think I bought it from SGammo once upon a time.

 

• Jan 17, 2014

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erwos said:

I think I bought it from SGammo once upon a time.

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Yeah they did.

Look for Czech Low Recoil 7.62 x 54r as I think that was what it was called when I last bought some.

 

• Jan 17, 2014

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Bertfish

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None listed at SGammo at the moment

 

• Jan 17, 2014

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erwos

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There's none anywhere for a price worth paying, alas.

The OP probably feels like I did with regards to heavy ball; there was some on the market for a pretty decent price for a while, but I snoozed and losed. Makes me want to go buy some more 5.45x39.

 

• Jan 17, 2014

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Bertfish

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I buy 5.45 whenever I get the chance. One day it will dry up like the 8 mm has. I've got 5 spam cans of 5.45 and I don't think that is enough

 

• Jan 17, 2014

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648 rounds for $149 (23 cents per round) is what I paid last Feb. at SGammo and I think that was the last time they may have had it. They are boxed in 12 rounds. They or someone else I think ended up getting some and delivering in ammo boxes with some disclaimer that a % of them were corroded and not usable.

I think I still have an entire box of it. I have to take inventory. If you really want some to try it, I can trade you regular surplus for a few boxes. I would not say its accurate to 200 yards though. 50 yards, the POI is pretty close to surplus. a tad lower. At 100 yards its noticably and groups are a little bigger, especially if windy. I judge this with my PU sniper where I can get better accuracy at 100 yards. 50 yards with iron sights is how I have kids shoot it. Or if I want to shoot offhand at 50, I'll use the training ammo.

 

• Jan 18, 2014

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I love the Czech training ammo. I got my wife to actually shoot my old M39 successfully. If you can find any online, or Gun Broker, buy it. Good if you want a child or significant other to shoot and they are scared of recoil.

 

• Jan 18, 2014

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amoebicmagician

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I don't know how you can tell the difference, but I've chronoed some of this stuff before and seen some batches end up about 3150 out of a 91/30 and a different batch chronoed 3550 out of the same gun!

How can you tell what you're getting, and was the latter possibly some kind of mistake?

Then again, by the time the second batch was tested my chrono had seen some near misses. It gives results that seem right with everything else, though.

 

• Jan 18, 2014

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amoebicmagician

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BOTH were white tipped

 

• Jan 18, 2014

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Go here and call/e-mail them.If stock is low they don't list it:
http://www.dansammo.com/ammo.asp

Look at the training .308 CHEAP.

 

• Jan 18, 2014

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303_enfield said:

Go here and call/e-mail them.If stock is low they don't list it:
http://www.dansammo.com/ammo.asp

Look at the training .308 CHEAP.

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I love the blue 7.62 training ammo as well. Shot that out of my old 1891 Mauser. Fun stuff.

 

• Jan 20, 2014

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Melnic said:

648 rounds for $149 (23 cents per round) is what I paid last Feb. at SGammo and I think that was the last time they may have had it. They are boxed in 12 rounds. They or someone else I think ended up getting some and delivering in ammo boxes with some disclaimer that a % of them were corroded and not usable.

I think I still have an entire box of it. I have to take inventory. If you really want some to try it, I can trade you regular surplus for a few boxes. I would not say its accurate to 200 yards though. 50 yards, the POI is pretty close to surplus. a tad lower. At 100 yards its noticably and groups are a little bigger, especially if windy. I judge this with my PU sniper where I can get better accuracy at 100 yards. 50 yards with iron sights is how I have kids shoot it. Or if I want to shoot offhand at 50, I'll use the training ammo.

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Thanks a lot! I'll keep looking and if I can't find any soon, I'll shoot you a PM.

Thanks for all the help!

 

• Jan 20, 2014

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toolness1

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tomandjerry00 said:

Thanks! I have plenty of light ball for my mosin's.

The training ammo was mostly made by the Czechs and is 46 grains. Accurate to 200 yards and has the kick of a 22 magnum.

Great for new shooters and kids.

The light ball or "normal" surplus is more like a .308-30-06.

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If you don't end up finding any, or if it's all too pricey, you could probably reload (or ask a buddy that reloads) some light target loads for the same purpose...

Good luck!