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Old August 18th, 2013, 08:26 PM #91
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This is the real reason government gets involved in things that aren't any of their business; revenue for the state.

However, after they kill-off a large percentage of MD firearms dealers and there's a big drop in sales after 1 October, I predict the political impacts of SB281 will result their revenue predictions being wildly optimistic.
Interesting...

I saw the revenue "projections" as nothing more than a Snake Oil selling point, in an attempt to solidify the votes of the lefties who know nothing about the gun issues. I never considered them real or attainable, and just a means to getting votes on the floor.

Sure, any new revenues wouldn't be turned down, but they are secondary IMO, as long as the greater ideological goals are met.
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Old August 18th, 2013, 08:29 PM #92
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Interesting...

I saw the revenue "projections" as nothing more than a Snake Oil selling point, in an attempt to solidify the votes of the lefties who know nothing about the gun issues. I never considered them real or attainable, and just a means to getting votes on the floor.

Sure, any new revenues wouldn't be turned down, but they are secondary IMO, as long as the greater ideological goals are met.
The budget is counting on those revenues. It calculates out to about 68,000 HQL applications. Saw somewhere else a budget of approximately $4M, with seed money of $.6M from the state budget. Hey, maybe we could help them run up the deficit next year
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I meant folks moving from out of state prior to 10/1.

The 77R has a signature block that I love (note sarcasm) that says "Voluntary Registrant/Applicant" or something to that effect. So you can't sign the application without "voluntarily" registering your purchase...
That's what I meant by move-ins... sorry if not clear.

As for "voluntary"?? Yeah... that...

Only voluntary for people coming in to the state, or anyone who has pre-'96 firearms who haven't been otherwise convinced that they have to be added to the confiscation registration good citizen database
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Interesting...

I saw the revenue "projections" as nothing more than a Snake Oil selling point, in an attempt to solidify the votes of the lefties who know nothing about the gun issues. I never considered them real or attainable, and just a means to getting votes on the floor.

Sure, any new revenues wouldn't be turned down, but they are secondary IMO, as long as the greater ideological goals are met.
Revenue is always in their minds and helps them justify, in fact is an integral part of their ideological goals.

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The budget is counting on those revenues. It calculates out to about 68,000 HQL applications. Saw somewhere else a budget of approximately $4M, with seed money of $.6M from the state budget. Hey, maybe we could help them run up the deficit next year
Sort of proves the point.
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Revenue is always in their minds and helps them justify, in fact is an integral part of their ideological goals.

Sort of proves the point.
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This is the real reason government gets involved in things that aren't any of their business; revenue for the state.

However, after they kill-off a large percentage of MD firearms dealers and there's a big drop in sales after 1 October, I predict the political impacts of SB281 will result their revenue predictions being wildly optimistic.
Correct. Revenue from Retail sales tax, gun shop owners' business income and personal income tax could drop by a greater number than the HQL fees bring in.

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I think that the OP will have to go through the training portion unless he bought a regulated firearm in MD. Since the Beretta was purchased in Virginia, it may not fulfill the requirement. I could be mistaken however.
The legislation states "Owns a regulated firearm," not "owns a regulated firearm purchased in MD."

DO NOT READ MORE INTO IT THAN WHAT IS THERE.
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The legislation states "Owns a regulated firearm," not "owns a regulated firearm purchased in MD."

DO NOT READ MORE INTO IT THAN WHAT IS THERE.
True and this will make a first class lawsuit if denied due yo lack of training. Not that we a short of potential causes of action
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This line of thought should probably not continue out here...

Just sayin'...
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'This line of thought should probably not continue out here...'

Just sayin'...

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