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Old August 14th, 2013, 09:48 PM #1
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AR-10 / 308 Scope advice

I just picked up a new DPMS 308 AR and got the irons sighted in at the range. So now in in the market for a scope to go on it. Any suggestions? I'm trying to keep it under $1k so I can actually afford to use it. Once I have it long enough and determine I'm a good enough shot with it to warrant, I'll upgrade in a few years.

So what's a good mag range and any preferred scopes that work well for a 308 AR?

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Kinda depends on what you wanna do with it. I have a leupold vxr 1.25-4x on a 16"bbl dpms 308 and I really like it for fast target acquisition and the 4x is plenty for deer hunting and plinking . If you have one of the longer barrel variants or intended to shoot for tiny groups at longer ranges a nikon m308 is worth a look.
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Ditto. Otherwise you put the same scope you would on a bolt .308. Just depends on how far you want to shoot. My bolt gun is for longer range shooting so I have a 6-24x50 tactical on it. If not wanting to hit something at 1000y then a 4-14x or a 3-12x might be enough. I am thinking about getting a DPMS Recon 308 myself. I actually have a 4-14x44 that is not being used (in was on the bolt gun) that I would put on it. If I did not I would consider one of the new Bushnell AR Optics 3-12x scopes ($190 at WM) or a Nikon.
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I got the 4x-16x Nikon m-308 scope on my AR10 and it works good for me.
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Sorry, should have been a little more specific. Mainly curious what would be a good mag range for 400-800 yard work and if there are any specific brands that have worked well (or I guess more importantly which scopes to avoid).

I used scope when I hunted with my dad when I was younger, but that was 25 years ago. Since then it's basically been all military iron sights for me except for the RDS I put on my .556 AR.

I've been reading up I all the scope specs, and I would like to find one that is mil dot graduated and, if possible for my price range, 1st focal plane with target turrets.

Thanks again everyone.
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Try looking at this from SWFA.

I run it's baby brother (10x42) and it's a decent scope for the $$$. Of which, I've had out to +900yds.
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It has been said before "Buy once, cry once." I would go with NightForce, Leupold, USO or Vortex Razor. Some of these are outside your $1k budget but if you are shooting 800yds you need good glass. With that said make sure you have a good mount as well.
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Nightforce would be my first choice but it is beyond your noted price point.

I shot an AR 10 Super SASS belonging to a friend with his Nightforce mounted on it. The next day I ordered the same optic.

If your shooting out to 700 to 1000 yards the zero stop feature is a must have.
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It has been said before "Buy once, cry once." I would go with NightForce, Leupold, USO or Vortex Razor. Some of these are outside your $1k budget but if you are shooting 800yds you need good glass. With that said make sure you have a good mount as well.
I agree with the BOCO rule, but that means that I wait and additional x number of months before I even start practicing with a scope.

That being said, I may just have to save up for a NightForce anyhow as I've heard great things about them.
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Nightforce would be my first choice but it is beyond your noted price point.

I shot an AR 10 Super SASS belonging to a friend with his Nightforce mounted on it. The next day I ordered the same optic.

If your shooting out to 700 to 1000 yards the zero stop feature is a must have.
Which model?
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I just got this from SWFA for a really good deal as a Demo-A. Shipped in 3 days. It's got the exact same ergonomics as the 6-24x50 and is FFP. Really like it so far.

http://swfa.com/Vortex-25-10x32-Vipe...pe-P60984.aspx

FOV is not too bad.

Demo units from SWFA: http://www.samplelist.com/
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I just got this from SWFA for a really good deal as a Demo-A. Shipped in 3 days. It's got the exact same ergonomics as the 6-24x50 and is FFP. Really like it so far.

http://swfa.com/Vortex-25-10x32-Vipe...pe-P60984.aspx

FOV is not too bad.

Demo units from SWFA: http://www.samplelist.com/
This is a decent option; However, IMHO a used Nightforce for $400 might be better. I completely understand being strapped for cash and still wanting to shoot though too. Not an easy decision my friend...
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This is a decent option; However, IMHO a used Nightforce for $400 is a better one.
Where would one theoretically find a used NF for $400.00? That sounds like a fantastic deal!
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Under $1K I would put a Vortec Viper PST 6-24x on it. First Focal Plane is $949, SFP is $849. I prefer FFP.

Love mine on my .30-8 bolt gun.

www.sportoptics.com are good to deal with.
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Under $1K I would put a Vortec Viper PST 6-24x on it. First Focal Plane is $949, SFP is $849. I prefer FFP.

Love mine on my .30-8 bolt gun.

www.sportoptics.com are good to deal with.
I have this scope on my bolt gun as well, but the eye relief isn't generous. How is this on an AR10? I have yet to purcahse a scope for mine either, 24" stainless brl, so long range for sure.
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If you are looking for higher magnification Sightron is highly recomended. Reviews here:

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/...x50-lr-mildot/
http://www.shootingreviews.com/affor...sightron-siii/
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=3&t=296445

For pricing:
http://swfa.com/Sightron-SIII-Riflescopes-C176.aspx

With that being said Nightforce sits on both of my long range rigs.
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If you are looking for higher magnification Sightron is highly recomended. Reviews here:

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/...x50-lr-mildot/
http://www.shootingreviews.com/affor...sightron-siii/
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=3&t=296445

For pricing:
http://swfa.com/Sightron-SIII-Riflescopes-C176.aspx

With that being said Nightforce sits on both of my long range rigs.
I have the Sightron s3 10-50 x 60 on my target gun. I'm happy with it for sure
Just looking for other options.
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Which DPMS LR308 did you buy? You mentioned iron sights so I'm guessing its either the 16" carbine or the 20" Classic.

If its the AP4 carbine you'll probably want a 1-4x.
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Where would one theoretically find a used NF for $400.00? That sounds like a fantastic deal!
Sorry $400 more.
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Which DPMS LR308 did you buy? You mentioned iron sights so I'm guessing its either the 16" carbine or the 20" Classic.

If its the AP4 carbine you'll probably want a 1-4x.
I would want more than 4x for 800 yds, I mean it is doable but more magnification would make things a lot easier.

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