Go Back   Maryland Shooters > The Arsenal > Rifles

Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old July 29th, 2013, 05:43 PM #1
klatekin klatekin is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 7
klatekin klatekin is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 7
Torn between 2 Arsenal AKs, SGL31-95 vs SAM7R-61

Hello MD shooters
Could use some advice on which Arsenal AK to buy.
I would like to eventually add 2 Arsenal AKs to my collection, one 5.45, one 7.62.
Both the SGL31-95 and SAM7R-61 are currently available in stock and around the same price.

I have been saving up for the SGL31-95 for a while and would have went with it except current receivers are marked FIME group instead of Arsenal which have me hesitant. (will Arsenal marked receivers ever come back?)

Stamped vs Milled receiver, foldering stock vs intermediate length stock, 7.62 vs 5.45
So my question is which one do you think is a better deal to purchase now?

Thanks in advance
klatekin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29th, 2013, 05:51 PM #2
MARYLANDJOHN's Avatar
MARYLANDJOHN MARYLANDJOHN is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: SEVERN MD
Posts: 11
MARYLANDJOHN MARYLANDJOHN is offline
Junior Member
MARYLANDJOHN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: SEVERN MD
Posts: 11
I'm still having problems with my arsenal ak don't do it it has been to them 2 times and took 7 weeks to get back every time
MARYLANDJOHN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29th, 2013, 05:57 PM #3
yellowsled's Avatar
yellowsled yellowsled is offline
Retired C&R Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Westminster, MD
Posts: 9,020
Images: 26
yellowsled yellowsled is offline
Retired C&R Addict
yellowsled's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Westminster, MD
Posts: 9,020
Images: 26
I have both the sgl21 and sgl31. Both are awesome guns.
__________________
Stuff For Sale (click)


“A citizen may not be required to offer a ‘good and substantial reason’ why he should be permitted to exercise his rights.
The right’s existence is all the reason he needs.”
—Federal Judge Benson Everett Legg
yellowsled is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29th, 2013, 06:51 PM #4
why2kmax's Avatar
why2kmax why2kmax is offline
Jacka$$
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Morgantown/Reading PA
Posts: 1,062
why2kmax why2kmax is offline
Jacka$$
why2kmax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Morgantown/Reading PA
Posts: 1,062
In the Engage Armament section, when they got in their shipment of SGL-31s they stated:

Arsenal Bulgaria will no longer be exporting to Arsenal USA anymore so the SLR series will be gone shortly after the last shipment arrives. According to our guy at K-Var, the Russians rose the prices on the last batch of Saiga rifles 30% and are now quoting 40% for further batches. So even the SGL series are up in the air. Anyway, either they wont be imported and converted by Arsenal anymore or prices will rise substantially. Not that it really matters for us since that will be post October. So...

I have an SLR-95 and love it. YMMV
__________________
Nobody Ever Died From Smokin' Tires....
why2kmax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29th, 2013, 07:43 PM #5
Jimbob2.0 Jimbob2.0 is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 13,907
Images: 27
Jimbob2.0 Jimbob2.0 is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 13,907
Images: 27
Thats a tough one. The advantage of the SAM7R is it is milled, frankly it doesnt do anything for performance but in long term value of the gun will pay off as milled guns have always commanded much higher prices. Largely due to relative scarcity and a perception that they are better than stamped.

I have both in several platforms and the barrel is a much greater variable than the reciever ever will be.
Jimbob2.0 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old July 29th, 2013, 08:20 PM #6
klatekin klatekin is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 7
klatekin klatekin is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by MARYLANDJOHN View Post
I'm still having problems with my arsenal ak don't do it it has been to them 2 times and took 7 weeks to get back every time
Sorry to hear that, do you mind sharing which model and what was the problems?
klatekin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29th, 2013, 08:24 PM #7
klatekin klatekin is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 7
klatekin klatekin is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowsled View Post
I have both the sgl21 and sgl31. Both are awesome guns.
Great to hear thanks. Do you have any opinion on the SAM7R?

Quote:
Originally Posted by why2kmax View Post
In the Engage Armament section, when they got in their shipment of SGL-31s they stated:

Arsenal Bulgaria will no longer be exporting to Arsenal USA anymore so the SLR series will be gone shortly after the last shipment arrives. According to our guy at K-Var, the Russians rose the prices on the last batch of Saiga rifles 30% and are now quoting 40% for further batches. So even the SGL series are up in the air. Anyway, either they wont be imported and converted by Arsenal anymore or prices will rise substantially. Not that it really matters for us since that will be post October. So...

I have an SLR-95 and love it. YMMV
Thanks for the information.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbob2.0 View Post
Thats a tough one. The advantage of the SAM7R is it is milled, frankly it doesnt do anything for performance but in long term value of the gun will pay off as milled guns have always commanded much higher prices. Largely due to relative scarcity and a perception that they are better than stamped.

I have both in several platforms and the barrel is a much greater variable than the reciever ever will be.
Thanks for the info. Does the SGL31 and SAM7R share the same barrel?
klatekin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29th, 2013, 08:28 PM #8
aquaman's Avatar
aquaman aquaman is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Belcamp, MD
Posts: 6,669
aquaman aquaman is offline
Senior Member
aquaman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Belcamp, MD
Posts: 6,669
i dont believe kvar's(bulgaria) bullshit. they love to milk the cash cow americans, same with the russians. the indian army & venezuela aren't paying 1k for a 100 series lol
aquaman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29th, 2013, 08:31 PM #9
Scott7891's Avatar
Scott7891 Scott7891 is offline
Love those Combloc guns
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,856
Scott7891 Scott7891 is offline
Love those Combloc guns
Scott7891's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,856
Quote:
Originally Posted by klatekin View Post
I have been saving up for the SGL31-95 for a while and would have went with it except current receivers are marked FIME group instead of Arsenal which have me hesitant. (will Arsenal marked receivers ever come back?)
It is because of pressure from the Russians considering Arsenal is a competitor therefore KVAR set up a shell company to strictly deal with Saiga's.

It has the same exact build specs as the previous Arsenal marked ones since it is the same company. That being the case they did take off milspec markings making it more commercial. If you want the milspec markings go for the SGL-31-94 which has them.

Otherwise both are quality guns you can't go wrong with either.
Scott7891 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 29th, 2013, 08:34 PM #10
Scott7891's Avatar
Scott7891 Scott7891 is offline
Love those Combloc guns
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,856
Scott7891 Scott7891 is offline
Love those Combloc guns
Scott7891's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,856
Quote:
Originally Posted by aquaman View Post
i dont believe kvar's bullshit. they love to milk the cash cow americans, same with the russians. the indian army & venezuela aren't paying 1k for a 100 series lol
Yea but since they are for government use only they don't need to pay tariffs, worry about making a profit, and don't need to make any changes to suit our ridiculous import laws.

Plus Venezuela and Argentina are building them in house now.
Scott7891 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  Home Page > Forum List > The Arsenal > Rifles


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2017, Congregate Media, LP Privacy Policy Terms of Service