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Old April 9th, 2013, 05:08 PM #1
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Who here is part of the "92%"?

If 92% of the country wants background checks on all gun purchases as Obama and MSNBC keep repeating, I figure at least 50% of the people here are in favor. Let's see...
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Good luck on that....it was 92% of the 10 democrats polled.
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Ps what is a "universal background" check anyhow?
I am fine with a NICS check at the retail level and nothing past that.

PSS. There could/should be a way to get a temporary 30 day NICS number good for private/second hand sales. That is as far as I'd go for "universal background" checks.
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I think that is a simplistic question.

I have no problem with them checking to see I am not a felon. I have deeper problems with them tracking I bought an AR-15 5 years ago. Now it is deemed illegal and I need to hand it over to the state since some psycho nut job shot up a school.

I'd rather see stats on how many registered weapons are used in crimes.

Why is Chicago a paradise of bliss with some of the best guns laws ever, which we must emulate. Chicago is so safe now.
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I support background checks on all gun purchases. I don't support the government tracking said purchases, however.

There *should* be a database with a list of SSNs for people not allowed to own guns. When checked, it should simply reply yes/no to the dealer. No paperwork, no tracking of who's asking to buy a gun, nothing.
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Ps what is a "universal background" check anyhow?
I am fine with a NICS check at the retail level and nothing past that.
+1

Like that Colin Noir vid... How are you obtaining said background check? Requiring registration and fingerprinting?
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The big elephant in the room is that criminals don't get background checks.
It's a false premise.
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I am in favor of it. HOWEVER, I would need an assurance from the other side that records will not be kept of the people that buy guns. I could live with something like a 5 year time frame for records to be retained, but after that, anybody retaining a Form 4473 or something similar to it, would be sentenced to a mandatory 10 years in prison. I am a give and take kind of person. I understand the issue where a lunatic can purchase a gun FTF and then commit an atrocity; however, I also understand the database argument for confiscation. Now that I think about it, there would have to be ZERO record retention. Otherwise, they would ALWAYS know who owns a specific firearm unless the person owns it for 5 years or more. Meh, now I am somewhere in-between on the records retention.

If we can do something to reduce the number of lunatics/criminals with guns, and still keep our freedom from a tyrannical government, I'll be in favor of it.

Heck, I'm in favor of Obama's proposal to cut social security and medicare and raise taxes across the board.

And, I call myself a conservative.
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I am fine with the NICS check, however this bs that Maryland is\has been doing goes too far. If the FBI says I'm good what's the issue. As a police officer I know it only takes a matter of seconds to do a III check. What else does MDSP claim to check that takes 7-60 days.

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The big elephant in the room is that criminals don't get background checks.
It's a false premise.
That is correct, but when the straw purchaser understands that they MUST do a background check if they sell it or otherwise report it stolen, and that should a crime be committed with the firearm they sell without a background check being done on the seller, that they will be in criminal trouble too, then we might get somewhere.

Yeah, I understand that handguns are the big issue in most homicides in Maryland and that they are already regulated here and require a Form 77R at MSP. However, a criminal could go to Philly and buy a handgun FTF without a Form 77R and then bring it back here. I know people that have bought firearms from granny at a yard sale. If a nationwide background check were to be instituted, it might be a good way to fight straw purchases and make EVERYBODY understand that keeping your 2nd Amendment right means you have to be an upstanding citizen. If the background check is the equivalent of a NICS check in speed, I am fine with it, IF other safeguards are put in place to prevent a national registry.
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