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Old June 12th, 2019, 11:22 AM #71
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yeah lots of people don't enjoy shooting and are afraid or just ignorant about firearms. since they don't have and won't use firearms, in their minds, an extra gun in circulation is just another chance it could be used against them.

little to no drastic action is being taken against drunk and distracted driving as most enjoy alcohol from time to time and of course rampant cell phone use, so there is an upside to counter the downside.

the more people we can introduce to firearms the more that will see their benefits and not be so quick to jump on the ban wagon (yes a pun of sorts).
Exactly. My wife isnít comfortable around guns. Was raised anti-gun and was never closer than a police officer being near here to a gun until she encouraged me to get in to hunting a few years ago. Sheís shot a 22 once (this past fall). Sheís been around guns with me shooting, hunting. A few days ago police were looking for someone urgently in our neighborhood and she had one of my handguns in her lap while I went to go help a neighbor lock her house up when we found out as her husband was out of town. My wife asked for it.

She still isnít comfortable with guns and we donít see eye to eye on gun control, but she is a sea change away from where she had been a few years ago where she thought all guns should be banned.

She may never get to a reasonable view point, but she is moving in that direction and itís in lock step with her getting more comfortable around guns and viewing them as (sometimes necessary) tools.

30 years ago gun control wasnít a partisan issue. The parties decided they couldnít share the same view point on any issue, so they staked our sides. I am a liberal gun owner. I wonít say I am a 2A absolutist, but pretty close to that (no more restrictions than any of the other rights should have and that isnít true today). I know several other liberal gun owners. Heck, one of my friends is an ultra liberal who works for a state democratic law maker. He is also an NRA pistol, shotgun and rifle instructor and abhors gun control. I also know diehard conservatives who also want every gun rounded up and melted down.

Itís a small minority in each party who have opposite views compared to the majority of the party, but just because you are a liberal or a conservative doesnít mean you share the same view point on all issues. I regularly lobby and talk to candidates and delegates/senators about my views and push for gun friendly liberal candidates (where I live, we are probably stuck with democratic representatives) . Thatís a quixotic quest? Probably, but going to keep trying to change minds whenever I can.
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Old June 12th, 2019, 11:35 AM #72
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My wife...while not brought up in a house without firearms...was still a Democrat and had the normal liberal fear of guns and really had little use for them. Long story short...when the KKK announced plans for a rally close to our home some years back and a counter-rally was also announced my wife asked "Do you have a gun close by not locked up?"

Attitudes can change depending on perceived and actual threats to one's safety.
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Old June 16th, 2019, 12:03 AM #73
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I posted this information about VCDL Lobby Day July 9th in the VA section. Please send an email via the link. Especially, if your not a huge fan of Gun Control.

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=236037
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I posted this information about VCDL Lobby Day July 9th in the VA section. Please send an email via the link. Especially, if your not a huge fan of Gun Control.

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=236037
It's popular with D Party big $ donors. That's the only group whose opinion truly matters to the pols.
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The problems in the big cities will be written off as "intractable problems" or simply "the failure of the conservatives to produce sufficient jobs for those people". Sad. The liberal mayors will skate.
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AG Herring wants to decriminalize maryjane because of all the b*tching about the large number of blacks that are arrested for possession compared to the number of whites. WTF?
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AG Herring wants to decriminalize maryjane because of all the b*tching about the large number of blacks that are arrested for possession compared to the number of whites. WTF?
I'm all for legalization... But to legalize because "it's expensive and effects mostly blacks" is the worst reason I've seen.
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I'm all for legalization... But to legalize because "it's expensive and effects mostly blacks" is the worst reason I've seen.
Racism at its best.
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Virginia is blue in all statewide offices, and in its Assembly is 51 GOP - 49 Dem in its House, and 21 GOP to 19 Dem in its Senate.

Money: Bloomberg has been spending more per capita in Virginia races than in any US state and Soros nearly so. That is a lot of IOUs on gun control.

Demographics: Virginia demographic changes make it likely to go solid blue in the next five to ten years.

There is also a very large relative growth of Hispanics -- the major demographic most likely to NOT own a gun, and not to support the second amendment and most likely to support increased gun control. (An issue not just in Virginia but nationally).
Unfortunately, Hispanics largely support socialism because of their propensity toward low income and high illegitimacy rates. California is permanently lost because of Hispanics, and Virginia, Florida, and Texas aren't far behind.
No this is not what I am getting at and I am not even sure your data is correct. Hispanics tend to have class mobility.

I was writing about polls and surveys on attitudes towards gun control where there is solid data showing much higher than average support for gun control in that demographic.
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FYI the SCOTUS decision released today will almost certainly result in a Democrat controlled State Assembly in Virginia. The entire assembly is up for reelection this November.
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