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Old June 14th, 2019, 09:47 PM #11
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I wonder how many times that blade has been used for seppuku.
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Old June 15th, 2019, 08:45 AM #12
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Very nice!
It's amazing things like this survived.
It really is amazing, and what’s interesting is that so many survived (and a lot are much older than mine). Since these “heirloom” blades were so important to the Japanese and their culture, they took great care of them and ensured they were passed down through the generations.

At the end of WWII many of them came back as souvenirs and our troops often had no clue as to how old and important the blades were. I’m sure there are many ancient blades still out there in closets and attics collecting dust. When I told my coworker how old this tanto was he was shocked, and said he thought it was made during WWII or even post war for tourists.

In the course of my research I came across this recent thread on the Nihonto Message Boards, it’s a long read but a really neat example of someone having an “old sword” WWII bringback they inherited which turned out to be extremely old, very rare, and valuable (tens of thousands of dollars).

http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic...-sword/page-1#

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I wonder how many times that blade has been used for seppuku.
Probably none!

Most of these old blades survived were made for dedications and ceremonies and not actually used
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In the course of my research I came across this recent thread on the Nihonto Message Boards, it’s a long read but a really neat example of someone having an “old sword” WWII bringback they inherited which turned out to be extremely old, very rare, and valuable (tens of thousands of dollars).

http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic...-sword/page-1#
Thanks I read the entire thing
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Old June 19th, 2019, 10:58 AM #15
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I picked this up from a coworker several weeks back
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When I told my coworker how old this tanto was he was shocked

....someone having an “old sword” WWII bringback they inherited which turned out to be extremely old, very rare, and valuable (tens of thousands of dollars).
When I read your last post about telling the co-worker, I cringed, because he probably immediately thought about the bolded part. I don't know what you paid for the knife, but I'm sure he correlated "600 years old" and "high value" right away. I hope he doesn't ask for it back.

Either way, cool stuff!

Did the Japanese blade get repairs done on the tip? One of the pictures looks like the tip had a different hue, indicating it had been repaired/replaced
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When I read your last post about telling the co-worker, I cringed, because he probably immediately thought about the bolded part. I don't know what you paid for the knife, but I'm sure he correlated "600 years old" and "high value" right away. I hope he doesn't ask for it back.

Either way, cool stuff!

Did the Japanese blade get repairs done on the tip? One of the pictures looks like the tip had a different hue, indicating it had been repaired/replaced
Thankfully he didn’t seem all that interested in the value, and from what I know about him I don’t think he’d be one to ask for it back....I think he realizes he did zero research on it and had no interest...plus the polish came in at $1,200 (top tier US polishers charge in the area of $100 per inch for a traditional polish) so I don’t think there’s any chance he’d ever want to “buy it back” given he didn’t have much interest in it in the first place.

No repairs to the tip, what you’re seeing in the pic is the result of the polish where the burnishing style changes on the top edge (mune) of the blade near the tip. Others may know more but I believe some polishers end the mirror-like burnishing short of the tip to prevent damage as it is more fragile.
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No repairs to the tip, what you’re seeing in the pic is the result of the polish where the burnishing style changes on the top edge (mune) of the blade near the tip. Others may know more but I believe some polishers end the mirror-like burnishing short of the tip to prevent damage as it is more fragile.
It is traditionally done that way to define the kissaki or tip portion of nihonto even on hira zukuri blades like that one that lack a truly geometric yokote. Besides the aesthetic, it is also said to alert by well-practiced feel the one drawing it blindly(w/o looking...not Zatoichi-style) that the tip is about to come out of the saya so beware and don't accidentally cut your damned self. Such blades are intended to be drawn, sheathed and displayed mune-down/ha-up to protect the precious edge from repetitive dulling damage, internal saya slicing and with particularly foul draw, palm bisection or digit loss.
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It is traditionally done that way to define the kissaki or tip portion of nihonto even on hira zukuri blades like that one that lack a truly geometric yokote. Besides the aesthetic, it is also said to alert by well-practiced feel the one drawing it blindly(w/o looking...not Zatoichi-style) that the tip is about to come out of the saya so beware and don't accidentally cut your damned self. Such blades are intended to be drawn, sheathed and displayed mune-down/ha-up to protect the precious edge from repetitive dulling damage, internal saya slicing and with particularly foul draw, palm bisection or digit loss.
Thank you! That explains it quite a bit better than I could!
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Yes but how well does it cut steak?
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That's a nice piece!!! so jealous
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