cww
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- Jan 28, 2010
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water cooler access, posting to classifieds, ability to purchase from individual that require a min post count. maybe?
We need more gun control
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md_al
Active Member
As a Gun Nut maybe you should rent firearms rather than have them at home. I am sorry for your situation but maybe it is safer for the general population to have him institutionalized.
A line needs to be drawn. And those on the wrong side locked the hell up or disposed of.
Someone needs to draw it. We can piss and moan over who but it still has to be done sooner rather than later. If not, enough of these nut jobs killing kids in schools, will end up changing the minds of enough folks that congress will act and they will act by implementing more gun/people control. It won’t work but those kinda laws are near impossible to reverse, as is well known in Maryland.
Shyte, I would draw the line but many would be unhappy since I would group sociopaths and phychotics right together with menopausal women and left wing liberals as all nut jobs to be put away or disposed of. I find these traits to all be mental illnesses worthy of this punishment.
lonewolf220
Member
Well I’m glad you’re not in charge then. Proposing mass incarceration/euthanasia for a group of people someone has determined to be undesirable is seriously f’d up.
You mean kinda like elementary school kids shot full of holes by a nut job that should have been locked up or disposed of? Sorta like that?
iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
It's the "Disposed Of" part that folks are struggling with. There was a time, in the world's not too distant history, when that exact thing took place.
If folks didn't somehow "Measure Up" to government standards, they were deemed undesirables and murdered. Some of them had horrific scientific experiment conducted on them. Sometimes while they were still alive.
Speaking only for myself, I'd like to think America's gun owners are better than that.
So if that boy yesterday and Adam Lanza had been disposed of and all those kids were still alive would that not be a better scenario?
If gun owners think not then ,when the left gets what they want ,and folks like me are killed during the confiscations and the rest of you give up your guns then we, gun owners, will have gotten what we deserve.
You need to have your son committed, that would be a disqualifying factor for a firearm purchase.
Are your screwdrivers and hammers locked up also...and on..and on..and on. Pots and pans really hurt when hit with also. Kudos to you for adopting a child but did you really know what you were getting into? For the sake of your adopted son, your family and others you need to aggressively pursue this issue.
Livingthedream
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- Feb 20, 2017
- 177
I agree with this, anything can be used to do harm if that's his intent. The shooter in Florida posted with knives as well as guns. Do we need knife control too?
The answer isn't more restrictions on guns, it's figuring out how to take care of the people that want to do harm on others.
lowoncash
Baned
O.P. If you claim to have more guns than someone you have no idea of how many guns that individual has then you really must have a lot of guns. Solve a few problems at once. Sell some of your guns and use the money for medical bills and treatment for your offspring. As you sell guns your house becomes a safer place for your child. Post a list here and if the prices are reasonable things should sell quickly.
I believe you said you make good money but are complaining you do not benefit from taxpayer assistance. I can't help wonder if you are putting a price cap on help for your child. I would gladly sell firearms or any other personal possessions I needed to for the benefit of my loved ones. Regulating my rights in any way is not a solution to your problems.
You are your child's best advocate. Is there a diagnosis from a medical professional? Are you willing to explore every possible avenue regardless of price? Have you considered every legal possibility like having your child committed or declared incompetent? Have you contacted MSP, ATF, FBI or your local LE?
If your child is as dangerous as you say you would be negligent not reporting them to Law Enforcement.
As a gun owner you know very well what damage can be done by a mentally incompetent individual. Take the responsibility yourself. Take action now before something happens. You are anonymous here unless you tell us otherwise.
Only you can take action at this point.
I believe you said you make good money but are complaining you do not benefit from taxpayer assistance. I can't help wonder if you are putting a price cap on help for your child. I would gladly sell firearms or any other personal possessions I needed to for the benefit of my loved ones. Regulating my rights in any way is not a solution to your problems.
You are your child's best advocate. Is there a diagnosis from a medical professional? Are you willing to explore every possible avenue regardless of price? Have you considered every legal possibility like having your child committed or declared incompetent? Have you contacted MSP, ATF, FBI or your local LE?
If your child is as dangerous as you say you would be negligent not reporting them to Law Enforcement.
As a gun owner you know very well what damage can be done by a mentally incompetent individual. Take the responsibility yourself. Take action now before something happens. You are anonymous here unless you tell us otherwise.
Only you can take action at this point.
GrimReaper
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Get rid of your "son" or get rid of your guns. This situation is a Adam lanza 2.0 waiting to happen.
If he ever snaps one day, hopefully a armed citizen will be around to put him down before he can kill anyone. This is the only solution to crazy people that does not infringe on the rights of others
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If he ever snaps one day, hopefully a armed citizen will be around to put him down before he can kill anyone. This is the only solution to crazy people that does not infringe on the rights of others
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GrimReaper
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Not necessarily " disposed of" but at least locked up in a nut house or mental asylum. We never had mass shootings like this until they started getting rid of the nut houses
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iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
Let's assume there are 330,000,000 people living in America. Let's also assume that only 1% of the population no longer has cheese on their crackers.
That's 3,300,000 pieces of cheese that slid off those crackers.
Are we, as a civilized society, really going to dispose of 3,300,000 undesirable Americans in order to save a few hundred American kids?
If you add in liberals your numbers low.
But if you want my honest answer then yes.
And you would be saving more than those children. These same folks cost American many more lives and their families many problems and taxpayers lots of money. So yep, I am good with it.
Ymmv though.
As an edit maybe we should ask that same question to those elementary school kids grieving parents.
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Sorry to hear your situation. I would lock your guns up in a safe and not tell your son the combination, or move your guns out of the house and not tell him where they are. Good luck.
- Sep 5, 2016
- 778
The 17 children who lost their lives in Florida is tragic. However, we cannot lose site of why our forefathers added the 2nd Amendment to the constitution. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The 2nd Amendment is not about protecting our homes from crime as much as it is about protecting the country itself from our own government. Governments have murdered over a 100,000,000 of their own (unarmed) citizens in the last century alone. As terrible as the risk of gun violence against our children, I fear the abuse of my own government 100 times more.
Ask yourself, would we be living in the same country today if America didn't have the largest armed civilian force in all the world. There are more armed Americans then every military in the world combined and that's what truly keeps our government in check. Does anyone think Obama or some other Presidents would have peaceably stepped down if Americans were not so well armed?? Hell no,
The country needs an open discussion about why we have the 2nd Amendment and it has nothing to do with hunting or sport shooting. Americans need a permanent resolution to make sure the 2nd Amendment will be preserved for it's intended purposes no matter what. Nobody who believes in the 2nd Amendment is going to want to discuss any kind of gun control at the risk of allowing that camels nose under the tent called gun confiscation.
Personally, I would have zero problem with much stricter laws in place for people to buy guns. Am I willing to do that and risk putting the 2nd Amendment at the mercy of Socialist/Marxist politicians in the future? NOPE
The 2nd Amendment is not about protecting our homes from crime as much as it is about protecting the country itself from our own government. Governments have murdered over a 100,000,000 of their own (unarmed) citizens in the last century alone. As terrible as the risk of gun violence against our children, I fear the abuse of my own government 100 times more.
Ask yourself, would we be living in the same country today if America didn't have the largest armed civilian force in all the world. There are more armed Americans then every military in the world combined and that's what truly keeps our government in check. Does anyone think Obama or some other Presidents would have peaceably stepped down if Americans were not so well armed?? Hell no,
The country needs an open discussion about why we have the 2nd Amendment and it has nothing to do with hunting or sport shooting. Americans need a permanent resolution to make sure the 2nd Amendment will be preserved for it's intended purposes no matter what. Nobody who believes in the 2nd Amendment is going to want to discuss any kind of gun control at the risk of allowing that camels nose under the tent called gun confiscation.
Personally, I would have zero problem with much stricter laws in place for people to buy guns. Am I willing to do that and risk putting the 2nd Amendment at the mercy of Socialist/Marxist politicians in the future? NOPE
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Why would you change the way every person in America is treated due to the status of your son when there is already a way to handle this in the system by having him committed? You are already in fear for your life, you should be fearing for the lives of others and have him committed.
I am a parent of a special needs child. She is fully mentally capable but has physical disabilities. There are no laws stopping her from buying a vehicle. The damage she could do would be tragic. I have the responsibility for her and I don't demand other people need to change their lives for her. We do everything we can, and if she did become a danger it would be addressed by us. That is what being a parent is about. Take care of it now.
I am a parent of a special needs child. She is fully mentally capable but has physical disabilities. There are no laws stopping her from buying a vehicle. The damage she could do would be tragic. I have the responsibility for her and I don't demand other people need to change their lives for her. We do everything we can, and if she did become a danger it would be addressed by us. That is what being a parent is about. Take care of it now.
- Nov 11, 2009
- 30,991
So the OP has a kid who has been perceived as so dangerous that kitchen knives have to be kept under lock and key, and is worried that in 25 months the kid will be an adult and able to purchase arms.
I'd be more immediately worried about what the kid will do in the 25 months for which I'd be responsible for him. Afterward, he's Society's problem.
I'm reminded of a guy in my old neighborhood who killed his grandmother with a hammer. After a while he was released. His subsequent actions were to move in with the sister he hated, kill her, set the house on fire, and kill a couple of firemen who were attempting to extinguish the blaze. So Society isn't necessarily ready to deal with the problem, either.
While there may be good solutions to the problem, they aren't readily available in the society we've constructed today.Freedom is a two-edged sword, and if those who support it are denied the means of self-protection, someone will have to be cut down by that sword before meaningful action can be taken.
The only possible remaining course is to aggressively seek and pay for the kind of psychiatric help that may (no guarantees) eventually tame the beast within.
There seems to be very little win in this situation, only a choice among lesser evils, and slender hopes.
I'd be more immediately worried about what the kid will do in the 25 months for which I'd be responsible for him. Afterward, he's Society's problem.
I'm reminded of a guy in my old neighborhood who killed his grandmother with a hammer. After a while he was released. His subsequent actions were to move in with the sister he hated, kill her, set the house on fire, and kill a couple of firemen who were attempting to extinguish the blaze. So Society isn't necessarily ready to deal with the problem, either.
While there may be good solutions to the problem, they aren't readily available in the society we've constructed today.Freedom is a two-edged sword, and if those who support it are denied the means of self-protection, someone will have to be cut down by that sword before meaningful action can be taken.
The only possible remaining course is to aggressively seek and pay for the kind of psychiatric help that may (no guarantees) eventually tame the beast within.
There seems to be very little win in this situation, only a choice among lesser evils, and slender hopes.
you are talking about how your adopted kid is likely to be stabbing, choking beating people to death and you want to reduce everyone rights instead of his???
Maybe what we need is now laws that allow me to know that your kid is so dangerous so that I don't rent him an apartment or employ him.
in fact your description shows you are really callous about the ticking time bomb this kid is, likely to stab a dozen people of run them over with a truck and you are not going to have him committed? How irresponsible a "parent" are you??
When I was in California for work a mile away from me a 19 year old guy with anger issues stabbed his three military age male roommates to death.
So with your "the heck with HIPPA" mean that those roommates should have been informed of that guys mental health history so they could decide whether to live with him?
Shall we be like Canada, Australia and the UK where it is easier to detain people on mental heath suspicion, where they can be detained longer before hearing, and where the thresholds for committing them for forced treatment are lower??
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