Florida Senate expected to pass bill raising age limit for rifles and shotguns

zoostation · Mar 8, 2018

Racer Doug14 said:
I truly don't see how this passes constitutional muster. Blatant age discrimination. Infringement of 2a rights afforded to past and current <21YO citizens. The bump stock part is more of the same baby steps of weak RINOs.

The problem is there basically is no federal age discrimination law, save for ADEA which only covers people 40 and over and only in matters relating to employment.

kcbrown · Mar 9, 2018

press1280 said:
That was for handguns.

Yes, it was. For the "quintessential self-defense weapon". The weapon that the judiciary claims is most protected.

Why anyone would think that the outcome will be better for us for weapons that aren't explicitly protected by Heller is quite beyond me ...

GlocksAndPatriots · Mar 9, 2018

kcbrown said:
Yes, it was. For the "quintessential self-defense weapon". The weapon that the judiciary claims is most protected.

Why anyone would think that the outcome will be better for us for weapons that aren't explicitly protected by Heller is quite beyond me ...

It's very easy if you delude yourself.

GlocksAndPatriots · Mar 9, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
Speaking for yourself there ClockAndPastries?

You’ve already indicated that when it comes time to mobilize, you can be found under the stairs with a protein bar and a crossword puzzle.

You overestimate how much the average gun rights supporter cares about the details.

danb · Mar 9, 2018

FBN: Scott signed it.

iH8DemLibz · Mar 9, 2018

danb said:
FBN: Scott signed it.

I really really really want to believe there's a strategery behind this.

Like an immediate lawsuit filed against these new gun restriction laws.

With the Florida court system immediately screaming "WHAT IN SAM HILL IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION, BOY". Followed by Gov. Scott getting his pee-pee slapped and the new gun restrictions being overturned.

This post of wishful thinking will be filed in my tin foil log for future retrieval.

zoostation · Mar 9, 2018

iH8DemLibz said:
I really really really want to believe there's a strategery behind this.

Like an immediate lawsuit filed against these new gun restriction laws.

With the Florida court system immediately screaming "WHAT IN SAM HILL IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION, BOY". Followed by Gov. Scott getting his pee-pee slapped and the new gun restrictions being overturned.

This post of wishful thinking will be filed in my tin foil log for future retrieval.

Unfortunately I think what you are going to see is a lot of conservative Floridians stay home the next presidential election and the state's critical 29 electoral votes will get handed to the dems. They may not vote for the democrat, but a lot of people aren't going to be inclined to stand in line for a Republican now either. I think the democrats realized this and just sat back and let the Republicans screw themselves.

danb · Mar 9, 2018

iH8DemLibz said:
I really really really want to believe there's a strategery behind this.

Like an immediate lawsuit filed against these new gun restriction laws.

With the Florida court system immediately screaming "WHAT IN SAM HILL IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION, BOY". Followed by Gov. Scott getting his pee-pee slapped and the new gun restrictions being overturned.

This post of wishful thinking will be filed in my tin foil log for future retrieval.

Scott will be running against Nelson for Senate. The strategy seems to be for Scott to be a wee bit less leftist than Nelson.

clandestine · Mar 9, 2018

I hope Rick Scott lose his senate run.

GlocksAndPatriots · Mar 9, 2018

Also, note that the Republicans have sat on the open carry law for years. Republicans screw around on the pro-gun bills, and they're all eager to go with the restrictions (like pass NICS upgrades without reciprocity).

danb · Mar 9, 2018

Florida has a republican supermajority... but FL republicans seem more like Northeast Republicans.

Before you flame Scott though, keep in mind Trump gave cover to republicans who wanted to vote for the age restrictions.

A lawsuit seems likely. Whether we will win is a different question.

GlocksAndPatriots · Mar 9, 2018

danb said:
Florida has a republican supermajority... but FL republicans seem more like Northeast Republicans.

Before you flame Scott though, keep in mind Trump gave cover to republicans who wanted to vote for the age restrictions.

A lawsuit seems likely. Whether we will win is a different question.

Not really. The Cubans are more like NE Republicans (Cubans are basically liberals who hate communism), but the rest are not.

GlocksAndPatriots · Mar 9, 2018

danb said:
Florida has a republican supermajority... but FL republicans seem more like Northeast Republicans.

Before you flame Scott though, keep in mind Trump gave cover to republicans who wanted to vote for the age restrictions.

A lawsuit seems likely. Whether we will win is a different question.

We already lost on the pistol purchase lawsuit. We'll lose here too.

danb · Mar 9, 2018

GlocksAndPatriots said:
We already lost on the pistol purchase lawsuit. We'll lose here too.

Still gotta try.

As I recall from the opinion, what saved the handgun ban was the fact that 18-21 year olds could still buy handguns in FTF sales and also rifles and shotguns. This is way more restrictive than that.

GlocksAndPatriots · Mar 9, 2018

danb said:
Still gotta try.

As I recall from the opinion, what saved the handgun ban was the fact that 18-21 year olds could still buy handguns in FTF sales and also rifles and shotguns. This is way more restrictive than that.

And originally, California's "may issue" was upheld on the theory that you could still carry open and unloaded. California made that illegal too, and the next court STILL upheld may issue. The courts are not going to act in good faith on this unless forced to by the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court won't until the composition of it changes. It's that simple. Instead of filing losing lawsuits, we're better off praying for Ginsburg's death. That'll be more effective.

danb · Mar 9, 2018

GlocksAndPatriots said:
And originally, California's "may issue" was upheld on the theory that you could still carry open and unloaded. California made that illegal too, and the next court STILL upheld may issue. The courts are not going to act in good faith on this unless forced to by the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court won't until the composition of it changes. It's that simple. Instead of filing losing lawsuits, we're better off praying for Ginsburg's death. That'll be more effective.

Still gotta try. Even the Tom Brady loses a Superbowl from time to time.

GlocksAndPatriots · Mar 9, 2018

danb said:
Still gotta try. Even the Tom Brady loses a Superbowl from time to time.

We're not losing from time to time. We're lost EVERY time.

iH8DemLibz · Mar 9, 2018

The NRA has filed a lawsuit.

That didn't take long.

buellsfurn · Mar 9, 2018

iH8DemLibz said:
The NRA has filed a lawsuit.

That didn't take long.

dang your quick

danb · Mar 9, 2018

iH8DemLibz said:
The NRA has filed a lawsuit.

That didn't take long.

huh, that was pretty darn quick. Really quick. Like, they were working on it and had it ready to go right away quick. :tinfoil:

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