Hello and help with my Great Grandfather's gun

Hello everyone!
I inherited my great grandfather's Chicago police gun (colt 38, blue steel, officers model, 5 inch barrel with bullets), original holster, badge, a leather baton, and some type of brass knuckles not brass. I have articles from the Chicago Tribune showing him capturing a gangster (photo) and awards for this capture, with other articles about him from the 1920's I think? I don't know how to tell when it was made, I do have a serial number though. It is soooo cool! I also have a badge of his from the World Fair held in Chicago.

How would I go about figuring out how much it is worth?

Thank you, Kenzie

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It sounds priceless to me. I wouldn't want to know a price on that stuff because I would never part with them.

thank you!

I just moved from Illinois, do I need to register them here too?

They are priceless, the stories are amazing! but I need it for insurance purposes.

Kenziemack said:

Hello everyone!
I inherited my great grandfather's Chicago police gun (colt 38, blue steel, officers model, 5 inch barrel with bullets), original holster, badge, a leather baton, and some type of brass knuckles not brass. I have articles from the Chicago Tribune showing him capturing a gangster (photo) and awards for this capture, with other articles about him from the 1920's I think? I don't know how to tell when it was made, I do have a serial number though. It is soooo cool! I also have a badge of his from the World Fair held in Chicago.

How would I go about figuring out how much it is worth?

Thank you, Kenzie

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now that the introduction is done you'd have better chance asking this question in c&r forum. hello and welcome nice inheritance

That sounds like a great collection of family history. I think I'd build a glass front box to hang on the wall and make a display

Great advice! I will post it there. I was thinking about some type of box and including the articles, etc. I have not used guns and I don't know much about them. I locked it away in a gun box. One is loaded and I was afraid to have it around until I took a class. I invited a military member I know to come over and take the bullets out.

Yes, you do need to register all your handguns within 90 days if you intend to become a Maryland resident.

Now banned long guns can be registered ONLY IF you owned them before Oct 1, 2013.

Note that AR-15's with HBAR barrels do not have to be registered since the HBAR makes them non-banned...

Welcome to the lunacy of Maryland gun laws.

Sounds like a cool collection, especially with all the other items and the family connection.

uh oh

I moved here 6 months ago! Will they take them away????? Should I take them back to Illinois? The stories are fascinating. During a police chase he was in an accident and unconscious in the hospital for a few months. Growing up I heard he was an alcoholic with terrible headaches. I educate university students about military PTSD and head trauma. My grandfather was fired for his behavior after the head trauma from drinking. Now, from the articles, I pieced it together. His drinking, anger, and headaches began after the traumatic brain injury. Now he would be treated, but then they had no idea. He used alcohol for the pain. At that point they didn't even know what shell shock was from the war. So sad for a man who had such an amazing career.

Welcome again in this thread .

( trying to transmit friendly tone over the internet )

You need , and will enjoy some basic education with firearms, and handguns in particular .

I'm sure one of our revolver cognizent members could easily be persuaded to give you some instruction and mentoring .

Likewise most of our IP's ( Industry Partners ) can offer some basic instruction . If we knew your basic location we can point you to convient Instructors, and there are certianly MDS members nearby to just about everywhere in Md .

Welcome to MDS , what an amazing introduction story odd too

Greetings! Great intro...and you're right, they are priceless.

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Kenziemack said:

I just moved from Illinois, do I need to register them here too?

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whistlersmother said:

Yes, you do need to register all your handguns within 90 days if you intend to become a Maryland resident.

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Kenziemack said:

I moved here 6 months ago! Will they take them away????? Should I take them back to Illinois? ...

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I am not a lawyer, and I would like to see some intelligent discussion about this from people who do know what they are talking about.

Maryland's registration law is new, badly written, confused, and to my knowledge not efficiently enforced. But you should make certain your heirloom is on the right side of that stupid law.

I don't think Maryland will give you any trouble about it, but like I said, I don't really know. I can imagine about four ways you could handle it, but I would like to see some intelligent discussion on the issue.

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision.aspx



According to the website a new resident has 90 days after establishing resident to register their handguns. Not sure what actually constitutes "establishing residency"


Look at the MSP website above and read all about our ******** laws!

whistlersmother said:

Yes, you do need to register all your handguns within 90 days if you intend to become a Maryland resident.


Welcome to the lunacy of Maryland gun laws.

Sounds like a cool collection, especially with all the other items and the family connection.

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If he plugged the barrel, removed the firing pin, and mounted the stuff in a shadow box for display, would he still have to register it?

Redcobra said:

If he plugged the barrel, removed the firing pin, and mounted the stuff in a shadow box for display, would he still have to register it?

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Absolutely yes.

It would still be a firearm easily returned to firing condition.

The ATF has strict standards for destroying firearms, involving multiple cuts of the receiver/frame.



I don't think this should be a problem for the OP.

First, when did he "establish residency?" Doesn't it take several months for that?

Second, when did he actually bring the gun to Maryland? Where is the written record of that?

Third, does anyone at MSP give a damn? This law is so confused and so badly written, nobody can make sense of it. If a prosecutor wants to destroy you, they can interpret the law to serve that purpose. Otherwise, I don't think anyone gives a damn.

Isn't the registration done online? However it's done, I say just register the damn thing before it sneaks out by itself one night and shoots up the local bowling alley. Once it's been registered, it will be harmless.

Can anyone link to the MSP registration form? Does it even ask for a "date of importation?" Didn't somebody say the revolver just entered Maryland a few weeks ago?



OP- do you need help unloading the revolver? I know one of us can help, if need be.

Basically, for a Colt, just pull back on the latch on the left side above the trigger, push the cylinder open to the left, and dump out the cartridges. Easy and safe. (Smith and Wesson, push the latch forward.)



Meanwhile, the Four Rules will keep everybody safe:


Rule One: All guns are always loaded.

Rule Two: Never let the muzzle cover anything which you are not willing to destroy.

Rule Three: Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

Rule Four: Always be sure of your target, and of what lies behind it.


These rules provide multiple, overlapping layers of safety.

First, get comfortable with knowing your gun, and every gun is loaded. It won't "go off" by itself. None of this "I didn't know it was loaded," or "I thought the safety was on." Guns do not "go off." They are simple and safe enough for children to handle.

Rules two and three ensure perfect safety, and are redundant. If the gun is not pointed in an unsafe direction, there will be little harm from a Negligent Discharge. If you do not touch the trigger, there will not be a Negligent Discharge.

You have a priceless heirloom, which I hope you will be able to pass down to future generations. Meanwhile, I hope you will be able to enjoy your custodianship of the gun in quiet confidence.

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizati...censingDivision/Registration/NewResident.aspx

Looks like the bastards charge $15 for the privilege too

rseymorejr said:

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizati...censingDivision/Registration/NewResident.aspx

Looks like the bastards charge $15 for the privilege too

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Welcome to Maryland. "What's in your wallet?"