Sine Die 2019

MEGARMS said:

Great Summary.

I have a question, so please someone set me straight. I clearly do not understand the process.

If HB0096 and SB0346 were cross-filed, how is it that HB0096 is dead and SB0346 passed? Don't they both pass or is this saying that SB0346 passed in both the house and senate?

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Jefflac said:

Ideally a sit down, to have a polite discussion and to "educate" them on who I committing the crime and murders (hint not us who follow the law). Show them support of harsher penalties for firearms related crimes and the like. You know, the bills they don't pass every year.

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tallen702 said:

Yes. A face-to-face sit-down goes much, much further than even a personal letter or phone call.

Emails are pointless. Still send them, it's important to hit all channels of communication, but during a legislative session they don't get read most of the time, and if they are, they're read by lackeys and don't actually get in front of the MGA member you're writing them to. Same goes for VM messages in the busy time of the year. In the down-time, make an appointment to speak with your representatives face-to-face about these issues.

The best way to get your foot in the door is to tell them that you want to meet face-to-face to discuss gun violence. This is a legit way to get their ear. And talk about it. Talk about how bad the violence is in Baltimore because they aren't penalizing those who commit the atrocities. Talk to them about how the legislation crafted in recent years does nothing to prevent guns from getting into the hands of those who are causing the violence, and how when legislation is proposed to make things harsher on those who do commit these kinds of major crimes, the MGA doesn't pass it because they're all told to toe the line.

Go a step farther. Craft a bill of your own one put it in front of them. A bill that would impose harsh sentences on those who willingly and knowingly illegally supply arms to gang bangers, drug dealers, and other PPs. Craft a bill that requires a minimum bond (no personal recognizance bonds) for any and all crimes where a gun is involved. Dealing with a "Glawk-Fohty" on your waistband? Instant minimum $100k bond with a 25% minimum posting. Are the hardcore liberal MGA folks going to take these bills up? Not on your life. But then you have something to throw in their face publicly. You can leak to the press that they have these pre-crafted bills available to them, but they're unwilling to be tough on the real criminals. Shove it in their faces if they don't move on it. And let the world see just how slimy and on the side of criminals they are.

I'm planning to sit down and discuss school security with my reps this summer. I'm going to give them both barrels and slam them on the fact that they'll give JHU their own armed police force, but let everyone else die defenseless including my kid.

Do your research, be passionate, but not rude, give them something that if they refuse to support, it'll let you expose their true colors to the world, and make sure they see you in person to make it that much harder for them to ignore you.

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Stoveman said:

Shame how much time, money and effort by the Dems went into trying to pass bills that do nothing to stop the violent crime in Baltimore City.

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MJD438 said:

Long Gun Bills / HBAR Bill / Firearms Storage / 3d Guns are all dead for this session./QUOTE]

Thank goodness.

I wrote to all my reps about this. Only one responded, but I got a personal reply: Sid Saab. He said he's pro-2A and won't support any further restrictions on the rights of law-abiding gun owners in this state. Thanks!

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GOG-MD said:

MJD438 said:

Long Gun Bills / HBAR Bill / Firearms Storage / 3d Guns are all dead for this session./QUOTE]

Thank goodness.

I wrote to all my reps about this. Only one responded, but I got a personal reply: Sid Saab. He said he's pro-2A and won't support any further restrictions on the rights of law-abiding gun owners in this state. Thanks!

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I got what sounds like exactly the same email from Del. Saab a couple days ago. Never heard a peep from Sen. Reilly, or, to nobody's surprise, Del. Bagnall. She's eventually going to come to the realization she's in a red district, and the only reason she won is that even conservatives wanted to be rid of McConkey last election and were willing allow her to replace him temporarily to do it.

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tallen702 said:

Yes. A face-to-face sit-down goes much, much further than even a personal letter or phone call.

Emails are pointless. Still send them, it's important to hit all channels of communication, but during a legislative session they don't get read most of the time, and if they are, they're read by lackeys and don't actually get in front of the MGA member you're writing them to. Same goes for VM messages in the busy time of the year. In the down-time, make an appointment to speak with your representatives face-to-face about these issues.

The best way to get your foot in the door is to tell them that you want to meet face-to-face to discuss gun violence. This is a legit way to get their ear. And talk about it. Talk about how bad the violence is in Baltimore because they aren't penalizing those who commit the atrocities. Talk to them about how the legislation crafted in recent years does nothing to prevent guns from getting into the hands of those who are causing the violence, and how when legislation is proposed to make things harsher on those who do commit these kinds of major crimes, the MGA doesn't pass it because they're all told to toe the line.

Go a step farther. Craft a bill of your own one put it in front of them. A bill that would impose harsh sentences on those who willingly and knowingly illegally supply arms to gang bangers, drug dealers, and other PPs. Craft a bill that requires a minimum bond (no personal recognizance bonds) for any and all crimes where a gun is involved. Dealing with a "Glawk-Fohty" on your waistband? Instant minimum $100k bond with a 25% minimum posting. Are the hardcore liberal MGA folks going to take these bills up? Not on your life. But then you have something to throw in their face publicly. You can leak to the press that they have these pre-crafted bills available to them, but they're unwilling to be tough on the real criminals. Shove it in their faces if they don't move on it. And let the world see just how slimy and on the side of criminals they are.

I'm planning to sit down and discuss school security with my reps this summer. I'm going to give them both barrels and slam them on the fact that they'll give JHU their own armed police force, but let everyone else die defenseless including my kid.

Do your research, be passionate, but not rude, give them something that if they refuse to support, it'll let you expose their true colors to the world, and make sure they see you in person to make it that much harder for them to ignore you.

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RepublicOfFranklin said:

Wow, a big thank you to MSI, MSRPA, PP, and everyone for all their work, emails, calls this session.

The HPRB getting axed (minus veto) is disappointing but it feels weird that’s the one that got fast tracked.

I think I’ll break out a contraband styrofoam cup to toast the occasion




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tallen702 said:

Yes. A face-to-face sit-down goes much, much further than even a personal letter or phone call.

Emails are pointless. Still send them, it's important to hit all channels of communication, but during a legislative session they don't get read most of the time, and if they are, they're read by lackeys and don't actually get in front of the MGA member you're writing them to. Same goes for VM messages in the busy time of the year. In the down-time, make an appointment to speak with your representatives face-to-face about these issues.

The best way to get your foot in the door is to tell them that you want to meet face-to-face to discuss gun violence. This is a legit way to get their ear. And talk about it. Talk about how bad the violence is in Baltimore because they aren't penalizing those who commit the atrocities. Talk to them about how the legislation crafted in recent years does nothing to prevent guns from getting into the hands of those who are causing the violence, and how when legislation is proposed to make things harsher on those who do commit these kinds of major crimes, the MGA doesn't pass it because they're all told to toe the line.

Go a step farther. Craft a bill of your own one put it in front of them. A bill that would impose harsh sentences on those who willingly and knowingly illegally supply arms to gang bangers, drug dealers, and other PPs. Craft a bill that requires a minimum bond (no personal recognizance bonds) for any and all crimes where a gun is involved. Dealing with a "Glawk-Fohty" on your waistband? Instant minimum $100k bond with a 25% minimum posting. Are the hardcore liberal MGA folks going to take these bills up? Not on your life. But then you have something to throw in their face publicly. You can leak to the press that they have these pre-crafted bills available to them, but they're unwilling to be tough on the real criminals. Shove it in their faces if they don't move on it. And let the world see just how slimy and on the side of criminals they are.

I'm planning to sit down and discuss school security with my reps this summer. I'm going to give them both barrels and slam them on the fact that they'll give JHU their own armed police force, but let everyone else die defenseless including my kid.

Do your research, be passionate, but not rude, give them something that if they refuse to support, it'll let you expose their true colors to the world, and make sure they see you in person to make it that much harder for them to ignore you.

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ironpony said:

Good stuff!


I have been wondering if there is a tally kept on emails and phone calls, I am guessing no in order to claim plausible deniability? FOIA?

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Allen65 said:

GOG-MD said:

I got what sounds like exactly the same email from Del. Saab a couple days ago. Never heard a peep from Sen. Reilly, or, to nobody's surprise, Del. Bagnall. She's eventually going to come to the realization she's in a red district, and the only reason she won is that even conservatives wanted to be rid of McConkey last election and were willing allow her to replace him temporarily to do it.

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That and she won by something like 185 votes, and that was with heavy campaigning and a ton of people slapping "McConkey is a Fraud" stickers everywhere from Annapolis to Severna Park. It seems her main focus is the arts given her background in theater, she referenced it hard in her campaign.

Sid is the man, though, he's always willing to lend an ear and gets back to you as soon as he can.

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mrbob1000 said:

Allen65 said:

That and she won by something like 185 votes, and that was with heavy campaigning and a ton of people slapping "McConkey is a Fraud" stickers everywhere from Annapolis to Severna Park. It seems her main focus is the arts given her background in theater, she referenced it hard in her campaign.

Sid is the man, though, he's always willing to lend an ear and gets back to you as soon as he can.

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Amen. Bagnall blocked me on Twitter for something as benign as vote no on a particular House gun bill. I really believe she’s a radical leftist that we need out of the House next go around.

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trickg said:

I'm actually shocked that this crap didn't get jammed down our throats, and it leaves me scratching my head trying to figure out why because I don't believe it was our efforts to that got them shut down. The reason I think that is because it didn't make one lick of difference in 2013 when they foisted FSA2013 on us. We called, we emailed, we went to the Capitol, we protested, we testified, and it wasn't even close - they rammed that travesty through, and didn't even have the common courtesy to kiss us first.

There's got to be some other dealing going on under the table.

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tallen702 said:

Yes. A face-to-face sit-down goes much, much further than even a personal letter or phone call.



Emails are pointless. Still send them, it's important to hit all channels of communication, but during a legislative session they don't get read most of the time, and if they are, they're read by lackeys and don't actually get in front of the MGA member you're writing them to. Same goes for VM messages in the busy time of the year. In the down-time, make an appointment to speak with your representatives face-to-face about these issues.



The best way to get your foot in the door is to tell them that you want to meet face-to-face to discuss gun violence. This is a legit way to get their ear. And talk about it. Talk about how bad the violence is in Baltimore because they aren't penalizing those who commit the atrocities. Talk to them about how the legislation crafted in recent years does nothing to prevent guns from getting into the hands of those who are causing the violence, and how when legislation is proposed to make things harsher on those who do commit these kinds of major crimes, the MGA doesn't pass it because they're all told to toe the line.



Go a step farther. Craft a bill of your own one put it in front of them. A bill that would impose harsh sentences on those who willingly and knowingly illegally supply arms to gang bangers, drug dealers, and other PPs. Craft a bill that requires a minimum bond (no personal recognizance bonds) for any and all crimes where a gun is involved. Dealing with a "Glawk-Fohty" on your waistband? Instant minimum $100k bond with a 25% minimum posting. Are the hardcore liberal MGA folks going to take these bills up? Not on your life. But then you have something to throw in their face publicly. You can leak to the press that they have these pre-crafted bills available to them, but they're unwilling to be tough on the real criminals. Shove it in their faces if they don't move on it. And let the world see just how slimy and on the side of criminals they are.



I'm planning to sit down and discuss school security with my reps this summer. I'm going to give them both barrels and slam them on the fact that they'll give JHU their own armed police force, but let everyone else die defenseless including my kid.



Do your research, be passionate, but not rude, give them something that if they refuse to support, it'll let you expose their true colors to the world, and make sure they see you in person to make it that much harder for them to ignore you.

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Whether New York City’s ban on transporting a licensed, locked and unloaded handgun to a home or shooting range outside city limits is consistent with the Second Amendment, the commerce clause and the constitutional right to travel.

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trickg said:

I'm actually shocked that this crap didn't get jammed down our throats, and it leaves me scratching my head trying to figure out why because I don't believe it was our efforts to that got them shut down. The reason I think that is because it didn't make one lick of difference in 2013 when they foisted FSA2013 on us. We called, we emailed, we went to the Capitol, we protested, we testified, and it wasn't even close - they rammed that travesty through, and didn't even have the common courtesy to kiss us first.

There's got to be some other dealing going on under the table.

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rbird7282 said:

Just think what they could do if they actually used that effort to actually lowering crime


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