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Old June 7th, 2021, 05:57 PM #31
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SO, if you suspect that someone is buying a firearm from you for a likely prohibited person you feel no responsibility at all to shut it down? Let the FFL deal with it?
Maybe the buyer is just a little prohibited...



I think selling a gun is a bigger responsibility than owning a gun regardless of the letter of the law.
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Ah...I would don't do that.
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Maybe the buyer is just a little prohibited...



I think selling a gun is a bigger responsibility than owning a gun regardless of the letter of the law.
Just a little prohibited? Is that like being just a little pregnant?
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Would it be illegal for the OP ? No

Would it be
Wise & Prudent for the OP ? Probably not .


Is there such a thing as " Slightly Prohibited " ? Arguably Yes . Maryland added a laundry list of new disqualifying factors in 2013 , some of them highly bogus . So there's plenty of people who would be Non Prohibited in the rest of the country , but prohibited Only in Maryland .
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Basically, yes. I am not an investigator, I dont have access to NICS and people get denied/delayed for lots of legit and stupid reasons. Imma stay in my lane and let the professionals handle it. FFLs license, their problem, and whether they perform the transfer is between them and the ATF.

Face to face transfer (were that still legal in this backwards-ass state)..... different story.
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So I'll be the outlier here but I don't think there's enough information to definitively know for certain that this is a straw purchase. It's shady and I'd probably walk from the sale (there's other buyers out there and nobody wants any trouble) - but is it a straw purchase? The buyer says "delay with his background check" and therefore to use the wife's name. I wouldn't sign up for that, especially if funds came from him as it opens the door however my understanding per reading the ATF literature, is that it's the actual act of falsifying the intended purchasers information during the FFL transfer to complete the transfer, not before, that actually classifies the purchase as a straw purchase. So could it be a straw purchase if the transaction goes through - sure, it might be, but just from the simple write up, its uncertain. It shouldn't be on you to give two shits about the "delay in his background check". That's his problem. If he bought or the account which purchased on GB is in his name, then I'd ship to whatever FFL in his name. Don't give the ATF or anyone else anything to question you about. There's probably some guidance on GB or elsewhere for how to deal with these things.

Too many times on this site I've seen where step-daddy buys a rifle for his step-son, or wife buys for fathers day (hint hint), or something like that and someone on this site calls it a "straw purchase". I'm not saying that happened in this thread - but it's happened. Ultimately, the person who is going to own the firearm should be the one passing the background check - end of story.

If you gut says there's something wrong with this sale (as I suspect it does), then just say no thanks and move on.
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I'd be concerned for a few reasons. Even if it's above board to ship to the FFL, what if neither the husband or wife passes the BC? The FFL is holding your firearm with no buyer. You'll probably have to have it returned to you. Like others have said I'd terminate the sale and look for a buyer that is not concerned about their BC. fred55
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So, I don't get why the buyer had to specifically get the seller involved at all. We have lots of customers (in store) who purchase gift cards or even directly pay for a firearm for a kid, wife, parent, etc. When the firearm reached the FFL, he could have just told them it was bought for his wife and had her show up to do the paperwork. That said, the story sounds fishy as crap. IF I did this transaction, (notice the big if), I would just ship the thing to said buyer. If he gets delayed and he is legal, he will have to wait up to 5 business days. Lot'sa people get delayed these days (basically everyone who previously had further review). ( Handguns arent very noticable in that regard due to Maryland's 7 day wait. ) That's not that big of a deal.
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Where's your sense of adventure. You know, expand your horizons...















or not.
I have expanded my horizons...did you forget this weekend already?
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Dude run away now and dont let him change your mind. i backed out of a facebook market place on my trailer axles im selling cause the guys phone number was skechty. it isnt worth any trouble that might come your way
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