Felon Live With Guns In House

Dizzle · Apr 13, 2019

If you have guns in the house all locked up in a safe and the felon does not have access to any of them can they live in the residence with you?

Boats · Apr 13, 2019

Dizzle said:
If you have guns in the house all locked up in a safe and the felon does not have access to any of them can they live in the residence with you?

I'm pretty sure they cannot. IANAL.

I only say that because it seems like around here there is the law.... And then there is Barney Fife's interpretation of the law, which usually equates to:

Ugh. Seems illegal. Must be illegal. Arrest now. Get backslaps. It'll all work out in court. Thin blue line. Sheepdog.l

CYA

Allen65 · Apr 13, 2019

The law says nothing about living arrangements. Only that firearms must not be accessible to prohibited persons. Locked in an actual safe should qualify as not accessible. But, as always, consult an attorney to be sure, and for any legal "gotchas" to watch out for.

Mark75H · Apr 13, 2019

Allen65 said:
The law says nothing about living arrangements. Only that firearms must not be accessible to prohibited persons. Locked in an actual safe should qualify as not accessible. But, as always, consult an attorney to be sure, and for any legal "gotchas" to watch out for.

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Nanook · Apr 13, 2019

IANAL either but you probably ought to have a frank discussion with the parole officer as well unless released outright. From what I understand, in most jurisdictions when folks are on parole the PO can enter the residence, workplace, etc without warrant as stipulated in the terms of release.

danb · Apr 13, 2019

Allen65 said:
The law says nothing about living arrangements. Only that firearms must not be accessible to prohibited persons. Locked in an actual safe should qualify as not accessible. But, as always, consult an attorney to be sure, and for any legal "gotchas" to watch out for.

Nanook said:
IANAL either but you probably ought to have a frank discussion with the parole officer as well unless released outright. From what I understand, in most jurisdictions when folks are on parole the PO can enter the residence, workplace, etc without warrant as stipulated in the terms of release.

All this. It also depends how recently they are a felon. Are we talking a 1995 conviction for assault, for which someone got probation and never saw a cell? Or a recent heroin conviction?

Setting aside the law, having guns in the house with a recently minted heroin addict with a felony conviction makes you a target for theft or worse like a home invasion, if the addict goes back to old ways and forgets to pay the bills. My 0.02.

PJDiesel · Apr 13, 2019

I've seen a known multi-offense felon handling guns for his auctioneer father at a sale last fall. Didn't seem to bother anyone at all.

Boats · Apr 13, 2019

danb said:
All this. It also depends how recently they are a felon. Are we talking a 1995 conviction for assault, for which someone got probation and never saw a cell? Or a recent heroin conviction?

Setting aside the law, having guns in the house with a recently minted heroin addict with a felony conviction makes you a target for theft or worse like a home invasion, if the addict goes back to old ways and forgets to pay the bills. My 0.02.

An excellent point

J Beard · Apr 13, 2019

G. Gordon Liddy used to say on his radio show.

" As I am a convicted felon I am not allowed to own a gun. However, Mrs. Liddy has a rather nice collection of them."

Dizzle · Apr 13, 2019

Ok he was convicted in 1995 served a sentence until 2000 and since then has changed his life around. Not on probation or parole just a previous felon.

teratos · Apr 13, 2019

Jack McCauley said a safe is fine.

Dizzle · Apr 13, 2019

Who is Jack McCauley? Thank you all for your replies as well!!

rseymorejr · Apr 13, 2019

Dizzle said:
Who is Jack McCauley? Thank you all for your replies as well!!

He was the Captain of the MSP licensing division several years ago. Great guy and 2A supporter.

John from MD · Apr 13, 2019

I know for a fact that PA allowed an ex criminal to live in the house as long as the guns were kept in a safe and only another adult had the combo.

antco · Apr 13, 2019

A parole officer in AZ had zero problems with his felon parolee (sexual crime as I recall) living in a house full of guns all locked in safes, for which the parolee had no key or combination to. This comes from an employee I had that was the owner of said house and hardware. AZ is a different world than MD however...

Ellegon · Apr 13, 2019

G Gordon Liddy always bragged about the guns his wife owned !

Anotherpyr · Apr 13, 2019

I think Penn Jillette has a story about Mr Liddy, a gun, and a magic trick.

Huckleberry · Apr 13, 2019

Depening on his crime and conviction, has this person considered applying for a state pardon?

He has completed his sentence, parole and probation plus has had a clean record for 19 years. That may count toward something with Hogan since Trump brought crime and punishment back to the forefront.

Clovis · Apr 14, 2019

Maybe this belongs here. Not sure how much of this applies with Maryland laws. Perhaps this is what Dumais was trying to change in the last several sessions.

https://www.jobsforfelonshub.com/can-felons-muzzleloader/

I haven't read the Gun Control Act of 1968 so I don't know if that is the source of prohibited persons for firearms ownership.

platoonDaddy · Apr 14, 2019

J Beard said:
G. Gordon Liddy used to say on his radio show.

" As I am a convicted felon I am not allowed to own a gun. However, Mrs. Liddy has a rather nice collection of them."

AMEN

The fact that as a convicted felon he is no longer allowed to possess, or even touch, a firearm has apparently had little effect on Liddy's gun collecting and shooting activities. Asked how many guns he owns, he's ready with his stock response: "None. But Mrs. Liddy owns 27, some of which she keeps on my side of the bed." He admits, however, that he still practices his shooting. So, like, how does that work?

Liddy levels an icy gaze at his inquisitor and says: "They don't want me back in the federal prison system. They couldn't wait to get me out of there."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/magazine/1992/05/24/radio-free-liddy/f9b60c15-02c7-4f58-9f59-3896482fafb8/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f77c452a38a8

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