BUMP STOCK SUIT FILED!
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Trump said bump stocks are “done.”
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Hawkeye
The Leatherstocking
- Jan 29, 2009
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Trump says a lot of shit. They're not "done" until the new regulation goes through the proper process.
j_h_smith
Ultimate Member
- Jul 28, 2007
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I wonder how unpopular these things were, if the Feds outlaw them? I bet there won't be more than 100 turned in. Hard to believe they didn't sell more of them.
GolfR
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I highly doubt that the federal government is going to fully outlaw them. Perhaps they would end the manufacture and sale of them but I really doubt they are going to require them to be turned in.
He admitted that, but said one year
So if the ATF pronounced you could keep what you had and it was legal, would this serve as the mother-may-I permission slip that Maryland is seeking? Assuming that you also asked before Oct 1, 2018, even if the answer received from the individual inquiry was a nonanswer.
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esqappellate
President, MSI
- Feb 12, 2012
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The ATF proposed rule *would* in fact outlaw all existing devices by classifying them as machineguns.
j_h_smith
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- Jul 28, 2007
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How would they serialize them or would you have to use it ONLY on 1 specific firearm, thus making that firearm a machinegun?
PowPow
Where's the beef?
The proposed rule calls for them to be destroyed with no compensation to the lawful owner. No serialization is required in a trash heap.
esqappellate
President, MSI
- Feb 12, 2012
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It bans possession, period, on the theory that the only legal machineguns are those made before 1986. The ATF would require you to destroy them, regardless of whether they were attached any firearm. It's right in the federal register notice.
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Hawkeye
The Leatherstocking
- Jan 29, 2009
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The new regulation isn't finalized yet. It's been proposed, but there is a lengthy process, including a public comment period, an economic impact study (which includes the cost of enforcing the rule as well as the direct cost to citizens affected by it), a response to the public comments, and finally a publication of the finalized new regulation and then it gets published in the Federal Register and goes in to effect. We are a long way from that yet.
And the POTUS said in a speech yesterday that the dems would take away 2A rights, who is taking this one?
esqappellate
President, MSI
- Feb 12, 2012
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TBD. Generally unless displaced by another statutory scheme, the remedy for a taking by the feds is a suit for compensation in the Court of Federal Claims with an appeal to the federal circuit. There are other types of claims that can be brought, eg statutory claims.
j_h_smith
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- Jul 28, 2007
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What would you believe to be a just compensation for denying my rights?
Compensation is for the "taking" of anything tangible, so it involves property.
Suing for a violation of your Civil Rights is a whole other thing.
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