knastera
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If your have a real documented business and can demonstrate at least one good and substantial reason for the permit, 4 (if you have a clean mental health and criminal record).
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HOW to APPLY for a MARYLAND Carry Permit
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If your have a real documented business and can demonstrate at least one good and substantial reason for the permit, 4 (if you have a clean mental health and criminal record).
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Umm, NO. If you are otherwise not prohibited and are the owner of a legitimate business it's a solid 5.
knastera
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I disagree only because of the human factor and the lack of hard and fast guidelines.
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Lack of hard and fast guidelines? There is a whole section in their SOP about business owners.
Almost as official as the information on the MSP website.
In fact I have seen the MSP TRYING to push applicants at the HPRB into a business owner or employee permit because they do recognize that as G&S. Respectfully, I couldn't disagree with you more.
knastera
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For example, the inspectors ask questions about behavioral health and medications. Many behavioral health meds, such as Trazodone, are also used for non-behavioral purposes such as chronic insomnia. I know about this first hand because it came up during my interview and the inspector actually looked up the medication to confirm it. Many medications for neurological pain are also indicated for behavioral health.
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knastera
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Your experience doesn't obviate the fact that there are disqualifying factors that are subjective.
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I was never asked any questions about my medical history or meds
knastera
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That is an example of the subjective nature of the interviews. I was asked about both. It wasn't a problem because my inspector was fair and thorough.
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Supposing the background investigation is clean, training and documentation is squared away and provided, one WILL get a permit for running a business.
The entity I run isn’t at all wealthy, but it is active and I, a layman no differnt than anyone else here, was able to get a permit.
I highly recommend anyone who can show they conduct business apply. If not your own, your employer has the power to endorse you so long as they’ll request you be armed and provide the necessary documentation to the MSP with you.
The entity I run isn’t at all wealthy, but it is active and I, a layman no differnt than anyone else here, was able to get a permit.
I highly recommend anyone who can show they conduct business apply. If not your own, your employer has the power to endorse you so long as they’ll request you be armed and provide the necessary documentation to the MSP with you.
And yet you still got your permit. I won't disagree with anyone who says that there are rogue investigators employed by the LD who ask for way more documentation that other investigators or who go down the medication rabbit hole. Anyone who thinks that an interview conducted at the Waterloo Barracks will be exactly the same as one conducted at the Westminster Barracks for example, is delusional.
That being said I still disagree with your response to the question at an 80% rate.
knastera
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If it was only based on the legitimacy of the business and a clean criminal record, I'd agree with Stoveman and DC-W, but because there are inspectors who ask about behavioral health and medications, there are intangibles that nobody can predict.
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knastera
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I totally agree about the variation between barracks. I wouldn't say it was 80% either. I was working with a 1 to 5 scale and I chose an integer. With a fractional number, I'd pick something between 4 1/2 and 4 3/4.
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AliasNeo07
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I'm not really sure why they would even ask about medications. It isn't as if there is some large database that tells them what medications people have been prescribed. Nor is there a database of people who have ever gotten counseling. Everyone would like about that, and they have no way of checking.
MD DMH has a record of people involuntarily committed and those who have a voluntary commitment of over 30 days.
MSP asks DMH to check that database when applying for an HQL or a W&C permit. If you are in it for either of the above reasons, you are denied.
Maybe they’re just trying to catch you in a lie.
MSP asks DMH to check that database when applying for an HQL or a W&C permit. If you are in it for either of the above reasons, you are denied.
Maybe they’re just trying to catch you in a lie.
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You would be surprised about the medication database. People who have chronic pain and or spinal injury and are receiving narcotic medications every month to help deal with pain, are on a national data base of medications being proscribed every month to help them deal with the pain. That way if a person runs out or uses his monthly medications to fast before the month is over, they can not go to a local ER and or an ER 100 miles from home saying they "hurt their back" or other body parts where they would get a proscription for pain medication to help them until the end of the month. I do wonder if MSP has access to that list and if they do how do they get around violations of HIPPA ???
When I had surgery and was prescribed painkillers by my surgeon, I had to present my DL to the pharmacy, who copied it. Who knows where that info ends up.
I did not use them after they were prescribed. Glad I just toughed it out.
I did not use them after they were prescribed. Glad I just toughed it out.
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My data point -
I applied mid June, using some self-employment as a basis. It’s 100% legit but also a part time thing, I have a full time “regular employee” job also. I did include last years tax return, copies of deposit slips, and maybe 6 months worth of reporting off my business checking account with my application. And of course triple checked I had all the other paperwork included (training, pictures, etc)
My permit was granted late August with what I gather is the normal restriction wording “valid only while conducting business...”
While I am not happy about having to jump through the hoops Maryland holds out there - in my case all interactions with MSP (including the in-person interview) were completely professional and even pleasant.
I applied mid June, using some self-employment as a basis. It’s 100% legit but also a part time thing, I have a full time “regular employee” job also. I did include last years tax return, copies of deposit slips, and maybe 6 months worth of reporting off my business checking account with my application. And of course triple checked I had all the other paperwork included (training, pictures, etc)
My permit was granted late August with what I gather is the normal restriction wording “valid only while conducting business...”
While I am not happy about having to jump through the hoops Maryland holds out there - in my case all interactions with MSP (including the in-person interview) were completely professional and even pleasant.
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