Hogan signs anti 2A bills 4/23

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    buellsfurn

    buellsfurn

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 1, 2015
    5,951
    southern end of Maryland
    CrazySanMan said:
    The only difference I see between Hogan and Brown is that Brown was honest about being anti-gun, anti-freedom, and anti-American. Hogan tells you to your face he is your friend and then stabs you in the back. He is worse than Brown IMHO.

    Hogan has done more to advance gun control in Maryland than O'Malley did. Let that sink in for a minute...
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    JaegerJason

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    BANNED!!!
    Mar 1, 2018
    83
    What Constitution?

    I can't believe there are people HERE saying they're going to vote for Hogan. This is a GUN FORUM.

    I'm not a single issue voter, but if I were, it would be the frickin' constitution, and this guy doesn't care about it.

    Maybe we really are a minority, but that's what our system is for- to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. Without rights, all that's left is the tyranny.

    So yes, I'll vote for some other guy, or nobody if there are no Americans running. And yes, that may result in Hitler. But you know what? Hitler didn't last very long, did he? If we have to be reduced to rubble before we can rebuild a just country, I say let's get on with it. I swore to uphold the constitution when I enlisted, and I'm still holding to my oath- more than I can say for Hogan, and all but a handful of politicians in this entire nation.

    As for those of you with no principles and your attempts to justify it with expediency, you're joining the wrong side, and that slope is very slippery. I hope you remember this when you're shouting "Crucify him!"
     
    aray

    aray

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 6, 2010
    5,308
    MD -> KY
    motorcoachdoug said:
    This is so sad to say but MD has decided your rights no longer important. I received an E Mail from a cousin about what Rev Franklin Gram has said about the slop that America is now on.

    BILLY GRAHAM'S SON IS TELLING THE SAD TRUTH

    NEVER SAID BETTER

    Time is like a river. You cannot touch the water twice, because the flow that has passed will never pass again. Franklin Graham was speaking at the First Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Florida, when he said America will not come back. He wrote:

    "The American dream ended on November 6th, 2012. The second term of Barack Obama has been the final nail in the coffin for the legacy of the white Christian males who discovered, explored, pioneered, settled and developed the greatest republic in the history of mankind.

    A coalition of blacks, Latinos, feminists, gays, government workers, union members, environmental extremists, the media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the "forever needy," the chronically unemployed, illegal aliens and other "fellow travelers" have ended Norman Rockwell's America.

    You will never again out-vote these people. It will take individual acts of defiance and massive displays of civil disobedience to get back the rights we have allowed them to take away. It will take zealots, not moderates and shy, not reach-across-the-aisle RINOs to right this ship and restore our beloved country to its former status.

    People like me are completely politically irrelevant, and I will probably never again be able to legally comment on or concern myself with the aforementioned coalition which has surrendered our culture, our heritage and our traditions without a shot being fired.

    The Cocker spaniel is off the front porch, the pit bull is in the back yard The American Constitution has been replaced with Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" and the likes of Chicago shyster David Axelrod along with international socialist George Soros have been pulling the strings on their beige puppet and have brought us Act 2 of the New World Order.

    The curtain will come down but the damage has been done, the story has been told.

    Those who come after us will once again have to risk their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to bring back the Republic that this generation has timidly frittered away due to white guilt and political correctness."
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    Franklin Graham did NOT say this. He would never refer to "white Christians" for example (or some of the other things in there either). The word "race" appears only three times in the Bible - all of them in reference to running a race not the color of someone's skin. Such a characterization is unBiblical and Graham would never make such a statement.

    I'm also NOT a fan of Snopes but in this case the following reference is helpful. They point out that quote is misattributed and predates the falsely-asserted reference to Graham by two years.
     
    Biggfoot44

    Biggfoot44

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    Aug 2, 2009
    33,199
    I * Understand * the philosophy about " Vote for the most Conservative candidate that can Win " . Most of the time I advocate for that . But right now in Maryland , we fall outside of "most of the time ".

    The Buckley theory is being delibertly and cynically manipulated by lying backstabbers .

    Can a Third Party candidate with views you can actually support win outright ? Probably not . Would such votes automatically be ignored ? NO !

    Candidates who only pull a cpl dozen votes get ignored . If they get vote totals in whole percentage numbers , they get noticed. If the GOP sees whole percentages of votes being syphoned off by Freedom loving Constitutionalists , it will be noticed by platform writers and individual GOP candidates.

    If we keep the current course of blindly supporting the candidate who claims to suck 2% less worse than the other guy , we are in a race to the bottom wearing short term blinders .
     
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    dblas

    Past President, MSI
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    Apr 6, 2011
    13,109
    Engine4 said:
    Wow, just wow. That picture really hurts me. Amazing that his handlers allowed it.
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    It really doesn't matter who the sponsor of the bill is or the proponents, they get to stand behind the Governor and the beer brothers during the signing and an official photo gets taken.
     
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    ComeGet

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    Sep 1, 2015
    5,911
    dblas said:
    It really doesn't matter who the sponsor of the bill is or the proponents, they get to stand behind the Governor and the beer brothers during the signing and an official photo gets taken.
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    Yes, but, did they really have to let all the MDAs get in for the gloat fest?
     
    Boondock Saint

    Boondock Saint

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    Dec 11, 2008
    24,486
    White Marsh
    The minority? It doesn't matter if all but one person wants to violate the inviolable. Republics, for as long as you can keep them.

    If the majority is no longer interested in supporting the Constitution, there are bigger problems, indeed.
     
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    dblas

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    Apr 6, 2011
    13,109
    ComeGet said:
    Yes, but, did they really have to let all the MDAs get in for the gloat fest?
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    The same could be said of the two pics I, and the rest of the 2A proponents and sponsors, are in from 2015 and 2016.
     
    inkd

    inkd

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    Aug 4, 2009
    7,542
    Ridge
    buellsfurn said:
    that just adds insult to injury .He should just have went out onto the lawn to sign it.I hope this crap backfires on him in worst way
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    I know. It's like he is flipping us all off, without actually throwing up the fingers.

    As far as I am concerned, that picture speaks more than anything else to his stance on gun rights in Maryland.
     
    Jim12

    Jim12

    Let Freedom Ring
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    Jan 30, 2013
    34,087
    CrazySanMan said:
    How can you support someone who swears an oath to uphold the constitution, knows this bill violates the second, fifth, and fourteenth amendments, yet signs it into law anyway? I wish to have no association with any oath breakers.

    Article 1, Elective Franchise

    SEC. 9. Every person elected, or appointed, to any office of profit or trust, under this Constitution, or under the Laws, made pursuant thereto, shall, before he enters upon the duties of such office, take and subscribe the following oath, or affirmation:

    I, _______________, do swear, (or affirm, as the case may be), that I will support the Constitution of the United States; and that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to the State of Maryland, and support the Constitution and Laws thereof; and that I will, to the best of my skill and judgment, diligently and faithfully, without partiality or prejudice, execute the office of ________________, according to the Constitution and Laws of this State, (and, if a Governor, Senator, Member of the House of Delegates, or Judge,) that I will not directly or indirectly, receive the profits or any part of the profits of any other office during the term of my acting as ___________ (originally Article I, sec. 6, renumbered by Chapter 681, Acts of 1977, ratified Nov. 7, 1978).

    Source: http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/mdmanual/43const/html/01art1.html

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    Refusal/Neglect to Take Oath, Violation of Oath

    Constitution

    Article 1, Elective Franchise

    SEC. 11. Every person, hereafter elected, or appointed, to office, in this State, who shall refuse, or neglect, to take the oath, or affirmation of office, provided for in the ninth section of this Article, shall be considered as having refused to accept the said office; and a new election, or appointment, shall be made, as in case of refusal to accept, or resignation of an office; and any person violating said oath, shall, on conviction thereof, in a Court of Law, in addition to the penalties now, or hereafter, to be imposed by Law, be thereafter incapable of holding any office of profit or trust in this State (originally Article I, sec. 7. Thus renumbered and amended by Chapter 681, Acts of 1977, ratified Nov. 7, 1978).

    Source: http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/mdmanual/43const/html/01art1.html
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    You don't think Mike Miller's Gen. ASSembly didn't receive a legal opinion that it was constitutional before they voted to pass it? :sarcasm:

    Federal, state, and local laws are passed by the thousands and challenged for constitutionality in the courts. Most upheld, some struck down; others both upheld and struck down, but by different courts. It's a racket.
     
    inkd

    inkd

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    Ridge
    fidelity said:
    From a pro-2A perspective, it's actually worse than O'Malley's photo op when signing SB281 ...

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    As someone said earlier, meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

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    It really is worse. Seeing all our enemies smiling while crowding around his desk.

    Like getting salt rubbed in a wound by your Doctor.
     
    fidelity

    fidelity

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    Aug 15, 2012
    22,400
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    SummitCnty said:
    Came here to post the same pictures.

    Sickening
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    Doesn't hurt to keep posting it.

    For those that actively use Facebook and want to post on Hogan's FB page, should link to the articles with the news stories about Hogan signing the antigun legislation. No need to leave any comment. Looks like he's quite proud to sign the legislation. Afterall, he could have not signed, and it would have become law. Apparently this photo op was important to him.

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    Abacab

    Abacab

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    Sep 10, 2009
    2,644
    MD
    Don't worry; I'm sure Hogan will make the effort to get a photo OP in during blaze orange camo day with a bunch of "pro gun" people that probably think these bills are great.
     
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