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  • Jul 1, 2012
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    1944 Military PP, non-import mark with matching numbers. WaA359 Waffenamt on slide and frame as well as two proofs by the ejection port and barrel, with two era correct mags and what I believe to be appropriate grips. I think the holster is repro but I cannot find any identifying marks. There are a few places where something is blacked out but not sure what is under there.

    Nice, the WaA359 army-accepted PP's are harder to find and especially in nice shape... only sour note would be the lanyard loop scabbed onto it. Having said that, there seem to be several with the loop right around that S/N:
    http://p38forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37570&highlight=lanyard

    Not a holster guy but my guess is it's possibly an early post-war holster, or even a proper WW2 late-war. I don't think it's a repro, the stitching is too neat... look carefully for marks embossed into the leather.
     

    Jimbob2.0

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    Feb 20, 2008
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    I know not to go to United! Went to look at a 91/59 which didn't resonate with me and they go oh we have a new in and ready to go MAS 49/56 cant go wrong with that and why not get a Finn rebuild 1914 1891 for an additional $2.5 bills. Dangerous people.

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    Can anyone tell me the details, its got a Finn Z stock and a SA mark. Numbers all match except for the buttplate. Everything else is literally Russian to me. It has the handguard which I know are some $$s and a lot are missing. It has a really nice bore. Figured this was worth springing for in recognition of memorial day, odds are this one saw action in WWI and beyond.

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    If you stop by United they marked down a whole rack of Mosins, some decent guns and the prices are not bad for today's market. They had at least 3 91/30s and a 91/59.
     
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    mawkie

    C&R Whisperer
    Sep 28, 2007
    4,337
    Catonsville
    $250 for a Finn M91 is a good find! And you know my passion for French small arms. Love the MAS 49/56. Classic design that doesn't get the attention it deserves.
     

    Jimbob2.0

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    Feb 20, 2008
    16,600
    $250 for a Finn M91 is a good find! And you know my passion for French small arms. Love the MAS 49/56. Classic design that doesn't get the attention it deserves.

    Had bought the 49/56 (yes 7.5 not .308) for $450 its nice and was thinking ah I cant go wrong for a M91 for $250 with good numbers and a good bore.

    They had marked most of their 91/30s and this one down to the same price, this was the gem from a collector's perspective. All were fairly nice examples.

    I agree the French 49s were really innovative handy guns, a few small adjustments and you have a reasonably powerful, compact carbine length gun. Now I just need to find a scope for one of them.
     

    Abulg1972

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    I know not to go to United! Went to look at a 91/59 which didn't resonate with me and they go oh we have a new in and ready to go MAS 49/56 cant go wrong with that and why not get a Finn rebuild 1914 1891 for an additional $2.5 bills. Dangerous people.

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    Can anyone tell me the details, its got a Finn Z stock and a SA mark. Numbers all match except for the buttplate. Everything else is literally Russian to me. It has the handguard which I know are some $$s and a lot are missing. It has a really nice bore. Figured this was worth springing for in recognition of memorial day, odds are this one saw action in WWI and beyond.

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    If you stop by United they marked down a whole rack of Mosins, some decent guns and the prices are not bad for today's market. They had at least 3 91/30s and a 91/59.



    I have a soft spot in my heart and safes for Finnish-marked and built M1891s. You have a very nice looking “Peter The Great” M91, made by Tula Emperor Peter the Great Ordnance Factory, which made M91s from 1912-1918. The circle Z with crossed cannons on the stock is a maker’s mark of Oy Ekwall Ab, which was the final sub-contractor for the Finnish stock fabrication. Assuming that the bolt matches the barrel and the stock doesn’t have any cracks, $250 is about $100 to $150 below market these days.
     

    Jimbob2.0

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    Feb 20, 2008
    16,600
    I have a soft spot in my heart and safes for Finnish-marked and built M1891s. You have a very nice looking “Peter The Great” M91, made by Tula Emperor Peter the Great Ordnance Factory, which made M91s from 1912-1918. The circle Z with crossed cannons on the stock is a maker’s mark of Oy Ekwall Ab, which was the final sub-contractor for the Finnish stock fabrication. Assuming that the bolt matches the barrel and the stock doesn’t have any cracks, $250 is about $100 to $150 below market these days.

    Thanks! Bolt and floorplate match. Not surprising buttplate doesn't. Stock is typical finn looking. Looks like it was recrowned when ordinance, has a very nice recessed crown similar to my Finn M39.

    Both were total impulse buys which generally make me wary.
     

    Arcamm

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    Romanian TT-33 Tokarev from AIM

    So I played grab-bag-a-gun with AIM and this TT-33 showed up. Oil soaked, but in great shape. Looks better in real life than in the pictures. 1953

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    Perhaps we need a MDS photo class. I could use one.
     

    Alphabrew

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    Jan 27, 2013
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    Woodbine
    I didn’t get it but I was tempted to get this Irish contract Enfield in the mummy wrap. Went for $910 which was a steal of a price. Lou45 had one just like it in the wrap.
     

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    mawkie

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    Sep 28, 2007
    4,337
    Catonsville
    I didn’t get it but I was tempted to get this Irish contract Enfield in the mummy wrap. Went for $910 which was a steal of a price. Lou45 had one just like it in the wrap.

    Damn, I'm old enough to remember when Century imported those and they sold for $210 w. matching bayonet back in the early 90s. I've got one out of the wrap with a bayonet one number off. If my memory is correct I paid $250 for it around 15 yrs ago. At least I didn't have the agonizing decision of "keep in wrap or take out?".
     

    Jimbob2.0

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    Feb 20, 2008
    16,600
    Damn, I'm old enough to remember when Century imported those and they sold for $210 w. matching bayonet back in the early 90s. I've got one out of the wrap with a bayonet one number off. If my memory is correct I paid $250 for it around 15 yrs ago. At least I didn't have the agonizing decision of "keep in wrap or take out?".

    You and me both I remember passing on a pile of hundreds of them at Harrisburg, I think the dealer was Phoenix Arms. CIA imports for sure. $150 a piece ($244 I today's dollars). I guarantee 99% of them got unwrapped. Sadly I only walked away with a M44 refurb (which was in the mummy and I unwrapped it in the 90s) for $60 and a stupid Turkish Mauser with bayonet for $30.
     

    KJackson

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    Apr 3, 2017
    8,613
    Carroll County
    I visited my father last week and brought home a special rifle to me. It was my grandfather's J C. Higgins Model 30 that he bought in 1952. It was one of a pair. He had one and my father had the other. Unfortunately, my father had given his to my cousin who passed away a few weeks ago and his family said that they weren't familiar with it. Unfortunately, it has some damage on the stock, but it doesn't bother me.

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    Oldcarjunkie

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    Jan 8, 2009
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    I visited my father last week and brought home a special rifle to me. It was my grandfather's J C. Higgins Model 30 that he bought in 1952. It was one of a pair. He had one and my father had the other. Unfortunately, my father had given his to my cousin who passed away a few weeks ago and his family said that they weren't familiar with it. Unfortunately, it has some damage on the stock, but it doesn't bother me.

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    Nice i just bought one of those myself to go with the model 31 i have.
     

    Oldcarjunkie

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    Picked these guys up today
     

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    Jul 1, 2012
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    I like that Ithaca :)

    Lost control and picked up another Type 94 this week, mostly because it's one off from a 20.5 date I had already and price was right.
    Find the one in between and it'll be a triple sequential...

    20.5 equates to May 1945, the 2nd to last month of production.
    Rough machining overall and the trigger won't reset due to a poorly machined internal part.
    But still has the matching magazine at least.
     

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    Oldcarjunkie

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    I like that Ithaca :)

    Lost control and picked up another Type 94 this week, mostly because it's one off from a 20.5 date I had already and price was right.
    Find the one in between and it'll be a triple sequential...

    20.5 equates to May 1945, the 2nd to last month of production.
    Rough machining overall and the trigger won't reset due to a poorly machined internal part.
    But still has the matching magazine at least.

    Cool pistol man:party29:
     
    Jul 1, 2012
    5,711
    Working on it you realize the reputation it has for being a POS is well-justified.
    Esp late in the war, the metal is soft, fit is poor, and the fugly is strong.
    Pretty much every aspect of the design begs the question, what in the world were they thinking?
    In a way that just makes it more interesting though.
     

    Oldcarjunkie

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    Jan 8, 2009
    12,217
    A.A county
    Working on it you realize the reputation it has for being a POS is well-justified.
    Esp late in the war, the metal is soft, fit is poor, and the fugly is strong.
    Pretty much every aspect of the design begs the question, what in the world were they thinking?
    In a way that just makes it more interesting though.

    And here i was just thinking... Thats so ugly its cool :lol2:
     

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