NRA rivals see opening

ironpony · Aug 23, 2019

FNC article

"As the National Rifle Association grapples with the drama inside the country’s most powerful gun-rights organization – and Democrats ramp up their gun control push – other gun-rights groups that have long existed in the NRA's shadow are working to raise their profiles." first paragraph

Inigoes · Aug 23, 2019

Someone needs to fill the vacuum left by the NRA-ILA upheaval...

DanGuy48 · Aug 23, 2019

Bang for the buck, SAF is hard to beat IMO. Nothing lasts forever but all this sniping is good for no one but the gun grabbers.

TheOriginalMexicanBob · Aug 23, 2019

SAF is not a lobbying organization...they're a legal advocacy organization for legal actions and donations thus are tax deductible. NRA-ILA, CCRKBA, The Firearms Coalition and similar are lobbying groups and donations are not tax-deductible. The NRA is of several divisions...the ILA is their lobbying arm. Donations to some divisions are tax-deductible.

Too many gun haters treat the NRA as some monolithic organization when it's not. By treating it the way they do, they're showing opposition not just to the ILA's lobbying efforts but the parts that promote conservation, law enforcement training, Olympic training and several million members.

While we might not like it when gun haters want to take advantage of infighting within the NRA, it's not unexpected for other gun rights organizations to try and raise their public profiles at the NRA's expense. Power abhors a vacuum...someone is always standing by to take advantage and increase their own power.

DanGuy48 · Aug 23, 2019

TheOriginalMexicanBob said:
SAF is not a lobbying organization...they're a legal advocacy organization for legal actions and donations thus are tax deductible. NRA-ILA, CCRKBA, The Firearms Coalition and similar are lobbying groups and donations are not tax-deductible. The NRA is of several divisions...the ILA is their lobbying arm. Donations to some divisions are tax-deductible.

Too many gun haters treat the NRA as some monolithic organization when it's not. By treating it the way they do, they're showing opposition not just to the ILA's lobbying efforts but the parts that promote conservation, law enforcement training, Olympic training and several million members.

While we might not like it when gun haters want to take advantage of infighting within the NRA, it's not unexpected for other gun rights organizations to try and raise their public profiles at the NRA's expense. Power abhors a vacuum...someone is always standing by to take advantage and increase their own power.

^^
What he said. I am constantly trying to educate people as to the differences among the NRA’s various factions, ILA, PVF, NRA Foundation, etc. ILA is what gets most of my dollars, then SAF.

Occam · Aug 23, 2019

First mistake: referring to any mix of these groups and sub-groups as "rivals." That completely misses the point.

Uncle Duke · Aug 23, 2019

Here as elsewhere in many areas including business , the damned friggin acronyms we all lazily use while thinking we're being efficient or trendy or saving time don't help matters either.

Political Victory Fund (PVF)..... Institute for Legislative Action(ILA)....give a newer reader at least a fighting chance to be able to surmise their function.

Biggfoot44 · Aug 23, 2019

SAF is indeed outstanding at What they Do , and very worthy of our support . But they only have a small overlap with NRA .

I'm all for having Additional 2A Groups with national level lobbying strength . If any such groups come into existence , I could see supporting them also.

( Between the lines, there presently aren't any .)

PowPow · Aug 23, 2019

Fox News is slowly but surely going towards the full libtard setting. The end is near for them. On that page, a linked story, "FOX NEWS POLL: MOST BACK GUN RESTRICTIONS AFTER SHOOTINGS". I call B.S.

davsco · Aug 23, 2019

while i'm sure nra is having some problems, wouldn't doubt that the mostly if not exclusively anti-2a press and politicians are hyping the crap out of that to hopefully get everyone to stop donating/participating. as much as the press and pol's bash the nra, that just shows how much clout and influence the nra (and its constituents) really have.

ironpony · Aug 24, 2019

Woah, I agree with all previous posts! That just may be a first.

On the poll subject, I believe the numbers would change a good bit in each 3 day period after an event. Knee jerk reactions may fall off.
Hard to imagine the country without political media giants.

wolfwood · Aug 25, 2019

Charles Cooper which presumably means his entire firm leaving

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/23/politics/nra-legal-team-turmoil/index.html

ironpony · Aug 25, 2019

Hmmm, could Wayne be the good guy in this whole thing?

Reminds me of all that Trump was blamed for but found innocent and many of those blaming him may well be the guilty parties.... we may never know.

Biggfoot44 · Aug 25, 2019

I don't know if any unequivocal Good Guys will emerge .

WLP is being accused of everything except handing out free beer on Sunday . A good portion of the mud flying thru the air is being cynically launched by the hardcore Anti's that will do or say anything to attack 2A . And NRA is THE pro- gun entity .

SAF is outstanding , but what they do is largely out of the eye of the general public , and most politicians. If NRA magically disappeared tomorrow , the combined remaining national 2A orgs would have about a tenth of the political clout as the Republican Caucus in the MGA .

While I begrudgingly am an NRA Apologist , and have a grain of salt about WLP being the total antichrist . I haven't seen an plausible denying of the insider dealing with Mrs WLP's Org , and in itself , that's sufficient appearances of wrongdoing to step down .

DanGuy48 · Aug 25, 2019

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