Does HK MP5A3 Collapsible Stock Meet Minimum 29" OAL Requirement?

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  • BLACKTALON

    Ammo is like food
    Aug 4, 2011
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    severna park
    as previously stated they can not be sold until October but should be around $1675 I believe.
     

    Dmacri25

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    Mar 15, 2014
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    BelAir,MD
    I exclusively shoot outside of Md in PA, could I make a stock that satisfies the 29'' goal while the weapon is stored in state but when I go to the range swap out the stock for a normal fixed or collapsible? If so, I'll find a cheap stock and modify (screw a 2x4) to please the lordship.

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    erwos

    The Hebrew Hammer
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    Mar 25, 2009
    13,866
    Rockville, MD
    Yes. There's no issue with constructive possession. Your gun is either 29" in the state of MD, or it's not. I have a gun where I own a fixed stock and a folding stock - if I want to use a suppressor in the state of MD on it, off comes the folder for a fixed stock. No problems.
     

    fred333

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    Your gun is either 29" in the state of MD, or it's not. I have a gun where I own a fixed stock and a folding stock - if I want to use a suppressor in the state of MD on it, off comes the folder for a fixed stock. No problems.

    Do you know if either of your stocks—folding or fixed—would allow an MP5 to meet MD's 29" OAL requirement? I just pow-wow'd with Engage re this issue and the [ugly] AR-style stock was the only option they could come up with. I really do want something that's either collapsible or foldable down to ~the length of the gun itself, which isn't an option with the AR-style stock due to the buffer tube.

    Oh and just in case anyone's interested, here's the gun (which remains out of my reach until 18 October (when it hits the MD Roster) plus seven or eight days (I forget which?)—MD's mandatory kiddie time-out):
     

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    erwos

    The Hebrew Hammer
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    Mar 25, 2009
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    Rockville, MD
    Do you know if either of your stocks—folding or fixed—would allow an MP5 to meet MD's 29" OAL requirement? I just pow-wow'd with Engage re this issue and the [ugly] AR-style stock was the only option they could come up with. I really do want something that's either collapsible or foldable down to ~the length of the gun itself, which isn't an option with the AR-style stock due to the buffer tube.

    Oh and just in case anyone's interested, here's the gun (which remains out of my reach until 18 October (when it hits the MD Roster) plus seven or eight days (I forget which?)—MD's mandatory kiddie time-out):
    Neither would do it. The barrel is longer than a standard MP5.
     

    Hawkeye

    The Leatherstocking
    Jan 29, 2009
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    Do you know if either of your stocks—folding or fixed—would allow an MP5 to meet MD's 29" OAL requirement? I just pow-wow'd with Engage re this issue and the [ugly] AR-style stock was the only option they could come up with. I really do want something that's either collapsible or foldable down to ~the length of the gun itself, which isn't an option with the AR-style stock due to the buffer tube.

    Oh and just in case anyone's interested, here's the gun (which remains out of my reach until 18 October (when it hits the MD Roster) plus seven or eight days (I forget which?)—MD's mandatory kiddie time-out):

    That's beautiful. I didn't know about these before, and now I really, really want one.
     

    fred333

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    That's beautiful. I didn't know about these before, and now I really, really want one.

    You're either under 30 or must be one of the three people who missed Die Hard...

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    I think that just about everyone (who isn't an anti-2A lefty) who sees it, wants it (including me).
    Oh, and don't forget the 92F...
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    Hawkeye

    The Leatherstocking
    Jan 29, 2009
    3,971
    Not the MP5, I've got trigger time on most of the variants of those. :)

    The Zenith - I just wasn't aware that anyone was making what looks like a really good clone, that's all.
     

    schnejerator

    dabbled in pacifism once
    Sep 26, 2014
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    haggistucky
    Could something similar to this be built up to ~3" to get to 29" OAL (note this isn't a HK94)? Is a screw on extension legit?

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    The MP5 stock I have does NOT have a removable buttpad, not sure if they're all like this...
     
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    fred333

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    Could something similar to this be built up to ~3" to get to 29" OAL (note this isn't a HK94)? Is a screw on extension legit?

    I was told that a buttstock isn't gonna cut it, but I'm getting sufficiently desperate that I'll ask about this. Thanks.

    In the interim, I got the end cap with the single-point sling loop and I'll see how well the single-point sling works. Alternatively, I may end up just getting a Sig Brace and chinning it...at least 'til I leave this increasingly unconstitutional, Kafka-state.
     

    erwos

    The Hebrew Hammer
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    Mar 25, 2009
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    Rockville, MD
    In theory, I don't see why that extension wouldn't work. You need a tool to take it off, presumably, so it's genuinely part of the stock.
     

    fred333

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    In theory, I don't see why that extension wouldn't work. You need a tool to take it off, presumably, so it's genuinely part of the stock.

    As I understand the law, "permanent", insofar as the mechanics of meeting the <29" OAL ban goes, means that parts added to meet the 29" minimum cannot be removed. But I could be wrong, so I'll run it by the legal eagle.
     

    schnejerator

    dabbled in pacifism once
    Sep 26, 2014
    116
    haggistucky
    What about AR stocks? Or sidefolders? Collapsable and sometimes removable without tools.

    Tell you what we shouldn't do is ask the MSP or ATF!
     

    IMBLITZVT

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 20, 2009
    3,799
    Catonsville, MD
    I have NEVER seen anything talking about requirements of attaching butt stock parts for a min length. Almost all stocks can have a butt pad quickly removed. I see NO reason an extended butt pad would not work. Hell I think one of those slip over pads might even work. Just don't remove it.

    Its a shame you guys did not get POs for these guns PreFSA2013. I still have about 15 that would cover this problem...
     

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