ATF Proposed Rule 41P

• Nov 27, 2015

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fabsroman

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Just wondering if this rule change is still slated to go into effect in December of this year. As I understand it, if this rule does go into effect, then most of the benefits of an NFA trust are out the window.

This might end up lighting a fire under my rear to get my trust done ASAP and then my SBR Form 1 forms completed and paid for.

 

• Nov 27, 2015

• #2

BigDaddy

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Feb 7, 2014

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Just yesterday I say a link to a govt site that said the final decision was changed from 12/00/15 to 01/00/16.
http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAgendaViewRule?pubId=201510&RIN=1140-AA43

 

• Nov 27, 2015

• #3

Sundazes

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I was just going to post and ask.
Thanks for the info....

 

• Nov 27, 2015

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minuit

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In the process of getting one setup, we will see if anything gets grandfathered... Pushback a month helps me

 

• Nov 29, 2015

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jmike1487

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Oh man. What would you guys do with limited funds? 2sbr lowers? Or a sbr lower and silencer? I just paid for my trust the other day and still waiting for paper work in the mail. I need to get these on fast

 

• Nov 29, 2015

• #6

Pinecone

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SBR lowers are fairly cheap. $100 or less for the lower, $200 for the tax stamp.

Cans are more, as you have to pay for the can ($300 or so for rimfire, more for centerfire).

I would at least do one SBR lower and one can. Then decide what next depending on funds.

 

• Nov 29, 2015

• #7

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44man

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can you use lowers you already have in the safe? pe or post 10 -2013, does it matter?

 

• Nov 29, 2015

• #8

dontpanic

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44man said:

can you use lowers you already have in the safe? pe or post 10 -2013, does it matter?

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You can use whatever lower youcwant. Some folks see it as a waste of a preban lower.

I like the idea of having a lower that I can put any upper on. As long as I maintain 29" OAL on the SBR.

 

• Nov 29, 2015

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44man

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dontpanic said:

You can use whatever lower youcwant. Some folks see it as a waste of a preban lower.

I like the idea of having a lower that I can put any upper on. As long as I maintain 29" OAL on the SBR.

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thanks. I have some post ban lowers laying around also.

 

• Nov 29, 2015

• #10

rbird7282

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jmike1487 said:

Oh man. What would you guys do with limited funds? 2sbr lowers? Or a sbr lower and silencer? I just paid for my trust the other day and still waiting for paper work in the mail. I need to get these on fast

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Get a can, you won't regret it...

 

• Nov 29, 2015

• #11

nerfherder

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right here

rbird7282 said:

Get a can, you won't regret it...

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Your wallet will regret it. Cans are every bit as addictive as guns!!!!

 

• Nov 29, 2015

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rbird7282

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nerfherder said:

Your wallet will regret it. Cans are every bit as addictive as guns!!!!

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Don't scare him away! Let him get his can first, then it'll be too late!


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• Nov 29, 2015

• #13

protegeV

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I just got my trust and started waiting on two cans. Im glad I read this post. I need to get a few sbr lowers in the works

 

• Nov 29, 2015

• #14

Hawkeye

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Jan 29, 2009

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Yeah, time to get a trust.

Been meaning to forever, but haven't gotten around to it. How likely do we think this actually is to take effect?

 

• Nov 29, 2015

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protegeV

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Hawkeye said:

Yeah, time to get a trust.

Been meaning to forever, but haven't gotten around to it. How likely do we think this actually is to take effect?

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Who knows? Better safe than sorry.

 

• Nov 29, 2015

• #16

rtruhn

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I don't know what 1/00/2016 means. And would we have a 60-day period before effective date, as is usually the case with final-rule regulations? I own three firearms I would like to SBR and at least two others I'd buy.

 

• Nov 29, 2015

• #17

ericoak

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You guys live in MD and can get CLEO, I see no need for the rush.

Eric

 

• Nov 29, 2015

• #18

protegeV

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ericoak said:

You guys live in MD and can get CLEO, I see no need for the rush.

Eric

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More hassle, longer wait. It's not the end of the world if trusts go away, but it's a heckuva lot more convenient that way.

 

• Nov 29, 2015

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SWO Daddy

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ericoak said:

You guys live in MD and can get CLEO, I see no need for the rush.

Eric

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If the trust system did not exist, I doubt MSP would do CLEO sign-offs right now.

 

• Nov 29, 2015

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protegeV

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SWO Daddy said:

If the trust system did not exist, I doubt MSP would do CLEO sign-offs right now.

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I've only researched truats. Never looked into the traditional route for nfa. How can the CLEO refuse to sign off? Thay would be a de facto ban on nfa in a particular area
Can't see how that's legal.