Is Colt stepping up to the plate?

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    I don't say please
    Jun 2, 2009
    5,244
    Calvert County
    All I read was them bitching and bussing employees to a protest. I didn't hear anything concrete and doubt they will do anything drastic.
     

    smokering

    Day Walker
    May 16, 2008
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    Sorry im not on the bandwagon to be excited it took them how long to step to the plate ? You are right Beretta did say something and we will see what they will do... Which is still more than what Colt has done. Call me when Colt join Larue and Spikes along with other companies boycotting NY or any state that infringes on our rights.

    I'm confused, has Beretta refused to sell/boycott any state that has proposed or pass gun restrictions? They said they'd be forced to consider leaving Maryland if they passed this bill. Not sure where in the process Connecticut is with their gun control bills, but maybe Colt decided to fight in their own state first before making a National statement.
     

    Bob A

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    Patriot Picket
    Nov 11, 2009
    30,690
    Any major corporation taking this kind of step is unusual, to say the least. I find it difficult to go negative on Colt. These are odd times, and they are responding to the pressure in a new way. That is admirable. They may decide to put further public effort into the fight, which would be grand.

    Letters and emails to the corporate office expressing positive responses to their efforts would be a good thing. Telling them that they haven't done enough would not help the situation at all.
     

    md123

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 29, 2011
    2,005
    Where? Link please. All I've seen so far is that they will consider it if SB281 passes.

    +1.

    Every time they have said they might leave, they have qualified it with something about how they are committed to MD or that they have been in the same town for 500 years in Italy. I have seen zero commitment to follow through if the bill passes, as Magpul did.

    This makes me think they will definitely not leave. Negotiations 101: if you make a threat, it should be credible. How do you make it credible? You start making accommodations to move, statements in the press, commitments, etc.

    To win a game of chicken remove the steering wheel and throw it out the window in front of your competitor. The opposing driver will know that if he drives forward, he will be choosing to crash because you have no ability to steer (ie, you're not bluffing). Beretta has it's turn signal on...:sad20: they won't do it.
     

    smores

    Creepy-Ass Cracker
    Feb 27, 2007
    13,493
    Falls Church
    Where? Link please. All I've seen so far is that they will consider it if SB281 passes.

    This...





    +1.

    Every time they have said they might leave, they have qualified it with something about how they are committed to MD or that they have been in the same town for 500 years in Italy. I have seen zero commitment to follow through if the bill passes, as Magpul did.

    This makes me think they will definitely not leave. Negotiations 101: if you make a threat, it should be credible. How do you make it credible? You start making accommodations to move, statements in the press, commitments, etc.

    And this. The recent silence is deafening. I'm betting Beretta will get enough exemptions to allow them to stay. Packing up and moving is easier said than done. Unless the final bill seriously jeopardizes the entire operation, I highly doubt they are going anywhere.

    Check the @Beretta_USA twitter feed to see what they've been up to the last week... compare that to MAGPUL, Colt, etc.



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    md123

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 29, 2011
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    Check the @Beretta_USA twitter feed to see what they've been up to the last week... compare that to MAGPUL, Colt, etc.

    I've noticed that too. National Lampoons European vacation...the guy is tweeting photos of cocktail parties :sad20:
     

    Oriolesfan93p

    Active Member
    Jan 5, 2013
    277
    Richardson, TX
    Glad they stepped up. People were saying they wouldn't take a stand of any sort because they are more concerned with their bottom line. With the way this reads they are doing something for the same reason, they are concerned that people will stop buying their products thus affecting their bottom line. Yes, this is financially motivated, which means that we have to thank the american people as a whole who have let Colt know that they won't forget if Colt remains silent here.
     

    04RWon

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 13, 2010
    5,178
    Orlando, FL
    Got an email this morning forwarded from a family member. Colts leaving and heading to Texas??
    Other parts of the email may not appeal to some of you.

    Civil war battle lines being drawn as Magpul, Colt, Beretta and other gun manufacturers relocate to pro-Constitution states

    Saturday, April 13, 2013
    by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
    Editor of NaturalNews.com (See all articles...)

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    (NaturalNews) A civil war looks likely to break out in America, and it will pit gun rights advocates (people who love liberty) against gun control zealots (people who hate freedom and love tyranny). The battle lines are being drawn right now as gun manufacturers are leaving anti-Constitution states like Connecticut and Colorado and relocating to pro-Constitution states like Texas and Arizona.

    Why does this matter? Because in effect, the anti-Constitution states are disarming themselves by expatriating weapons manufacturers. Thus, they are eliminating their own weapons infrastructure and leaving themselves relatively defenseless should a civil war occur.

    States like Texas and Wyoming, where gun manufacturers are increasingly moving and setting up shop, are simultaneously building up a massive arms infrastructure that may ultimately spell the difference between victory and defeat in a civil war.

    This is the tragic truth of the current anti-America, anti-Constitution, criminal government takeover happening in multiple states across our Republic right now: those who hate liberty are disarming themselves.
    Colt moving to Texas, others likely to follow

    If the majority of people in states like New York, Connecticut and Colorado wish to be disarmed slaves living as subjects to a tyrannical government, then they are also going to see more gun owners leaving those states and seeking new lives in gun-friendly states like Texas, Montana, Arizona and Idaho. I can tell you firsthand that here in Texas, we shoot big, heavy firearms on the weekend (.50 BMG), and if the local sheriff shows up, it's only because they want some trigger time, too! (You gotta pick the right county, though. Stay away from Travis County at all costs...)

    Because Texas is a state that upholds the Second Amendment rights of its citizens, Texas is already attracting both gun manufacturers and gun-friendly citizens who are relocating there. For example, firearms maker Colt is leaving Connecticut and moving to Texas, bringing valuable skills, hardware, manufacturing equipment and jobs to Texas.

    Magpul industries, makers of 30-round rifle magazines, also says it's leaving Colorado and looking for a destination more aligned with the Constitutional rights of American citizens.

    Such moves are not only valuable for the Texas economy; it also means that once the Civil War is unleashed in America and the collectivist anti-American, anti-Constitution leftist gun grabbers try to force national disarmament at gunpoint, states like Texas will be cranking out Colt rifles and putting them into the hands of freedom fighters who will send as much lead down range as is necessary to reinforce the point that the Bill of Rights is not negotiable.
    Texas also controls much of the national energy supply

    If leftists living in treasonous states try to push their criminal agenda onto the entire nation, let 'em figure out how to live without energy, too. Texas not only has the guns, you see... it's also got the energy. Over one-third of America's oil and natural gas flows through Texas-based refineries and ports. Any attempt to mess with Texas means the rest of the country won't get its energy needs met.

    Texas can defend its resources with -- guess what? -- citizens armed with rifles made in Texas, loaded with high-capacity magazines made in Texas, shooting bullets loaded in Texas in full alignment with the Bill of Rights that's defended in Texas.

    That's why every time another criminal state government (like that of Connecticut) passes another unconstitutional law stripping its own citizens of the right to own firearms, I cheer when the gun manufacturers in that state announce they're moving out. If Boulder, Colorado wants to fulfill its socialist dreams of total government tyranny, then we all welcome MagPul exiting Boulder and setting up shop in a pro-Constitution zone where the company's many talents will be fully appreciated.
    Traitorous states are disarming themselves

    I love the idea that all these companies are moving out of wannabe communist cities like Boulder, or traitorous anti-Constitution states like Connecticut. Because in truth, we want the anti-Constitution states to have no weapons manufacturing infrastructure. It will make them easier to defeat in a military campaign designed to free the enslaved citizens living in those states from tyranny rule.

    This fact is multiplied even further by the fact that many U.S. gun and ammo manufacturers are REFUSING to sell equipment to anti-Constitution governments, including the state government of Connecticut. The full list is posted at The Police Loophole.

    It's a huge list of weapons manufacturers and retailers, including Barrett, Midway USA, Cheaper Than Dirt, Larue Tactical, Rock River Arms, Bravo Company USA and more.

    What this means is that if the traitorous, criminal federal government attempts to overrun the People with the 2 billion rounds of ammo DHS has been stockpiling, they're going to find themselves outgunned and out-supplied by the private gun and ammo manufacturing and distribution industry which will absolutely NOT sell any equipment to the federal government.

    By the way, private individuals are buying up hundreds of millions of rounds of ammo each week, vastly out-pacing DHS stockpiling. On top of that, there's also the fact that brain-dead DHS employees are too stupid to know how to use firearms effectively in the first place. If DHS hands all their stockpiled guns to TSA agents, for example, they're far more likely to shoot off their own toes than wage anything resembling a tactical war. They would be almost instantly out-maneuvered and out-gunned by veterans, hunters, sheriff's deputies and privately-trained citizens.
    It is important to bring all collaborators to justice

    It's going to be hilarious seeing all the governors and state representatives of the traitorous anti-gun states trying to defend themselves against armed arrest squads when they have no weapons.

    I'm just curious how all these traitorous lawmakers think they're going to defend themselves against real justice once the shooting begins. Are they so delusional that they think nobody is recording their names and votes? To be on the record voting to destroy the Second Amendment is nothing less than treason. To cast such a vote in a nation founded on armed resistance to tyranny is nothing less than suicide.

    Because the anti-Constitution criminals have disarmed themselves, the pro-Constitution justice teams will be able to march right in, arrest these traitors for sedition and round them up for a mass trial where they can join their fellow traitors from Colorado, New York and California (among other states).

    For the purposes of law and justice, it will be very important to make sure that all those who have actively violated the Bill of Rights be arrested, charged and brought to trial for their crimes. Historically, the typical punishment for those found guilty of acts of treason against their own nation has been the death penalty (i.e. firing squad). (I'm not calling for that, nor condoning that. I'm merely pointing out actual history.) Even further, those who have actively conspired to destroy America's Constitution and Bill of Rights are, by the government's own definition, "enemy combatants," meaning they may be held and imprisoned under the rules of war.

    It's time we all began to understand that lawmakers who vote for unconstitutional gun control measures in America are, by definition, "enemy combatants" who are engaged in actual warfare against America. They have moved the nation far past the era of polite debate. These traitors now have put guns to all our heads, demanding we comply or be arrested. In New York and elsewhere, many innocent citizens have already been thrown in jail for the "crime" of exercising their constitutional rights. The war against liberty has begun, and the battle lines are being drawn as gun and ammo manufacturers relocate to states that choose to side with the Constitution rather than outright tyranny.

    You would be wise to make a similar choice. If you are a person who believe in anything resembling liberty -- owning a gun, growing your own food, homeschooling your children -- you will be arrested and imprisoned during the civil war if you stay in the criminal anti-Constitution states.

    On the other hand, those very same activities will be openly welcomed in pro-Constitution states that actually abide by the law of the land. And it is those states that will have the hardware advantage once the fighting starts.

    For your convenience, here's a list of criminal, traitorous anti-Constitution states vs. relatively pro-Constitution states: (some states are not listed because they do not neatly fit into either category)
    List of criminally run, anti-Constitution states

    Get OUT of these states if you value liberty!

    California
    New York
    New Jersey
    Connecticut
    Massachusetts
    Maryland
    Rhode Island
    Pennsylvania
    Illinois
    Michigan
    Colorado
    Hawaii
    Alabama
    List of (relatively) pro-Constitution states

    MOVE to these states if you value liberty!

    Texas
    Wyoming
    Montana
    Utah
    Idaho
    Arizona
    Nevada
    New Mexico
    Alaska
    North Dakota
    South Dakota
    Nebraska
    Kansas
    Oklahoma
    Wisconsin
    Missouri
    Arkansas
    Louisiana
    Indiana
    Ohio
    Kentucky
    Tennessee
    Mississippi
    Georgia
    South Carolina
    Florida
    West Virginia
    Vermont
    New Hampshire
     

    gmhowell

    Not Banned Yet
    Nov 28, 2011
    3,406
    Monkey County
    I see nothing in that article to indicate Colt is moving. No press release is mentioned, no company executive is quoted, etc. Further, given that they repeat the debunked 'news' of Beretta's move (it is suspected, but nothing is official or in any way confirmed) I'll tend to ignore everything else in that piece.
     

    smores

    Creepy-Ass Cracker
    Feb 27, 2007
    13,493
    Falls Church
    I see nothing in that article to indicate Colt is moving. No press release is mentioned, no company executive is quoted, etc. Further, given that they repeat the debunked 'news' of Beretta's move (it is suspected, but nothing is official or in any way confirmed) I'll tend to ignore everything else in that piece.

    One of Colt's contract builders, Bold Ideas, who builds the Colt Competition Rifles is moving to Texas, from what I have heard. Colt Defense and Colt's Manufacturing Company, LLC haven't announced anything to my knowledge.



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    TxAggie

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 25, 2012
    4,734
    Anne Arundel County, MD
    One of Colt's contract builders, Bold Ideas, who builds the Colt Competition Rifles is moving to Texas, from what I have heard. Colt Defense and Colt's Manufacturing Company, LLC haven't announced anything to my knowledge.



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    Yes, this is true. They are moving to Breckenridge, TX, which is about 15 miles from where I was raised. Employment ads have been out in the area for several weeks now.
     

    eagle-eye78

    Member
    Aug 30, 2012
    75
    Frederick MD
    Interesting to see Alabama on the anti liberty states considering they're down south. Did they pass some draconian gun laws too?

    I was wondering that also, I am from Alabama and I was down there a few weeks back and they just passed a state law allowing citizens to keep their handguns in their cars on private property. My Father takes his CCW everywhere with him.
     

    Docster

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 19, 2010
    9,768
    Yep, this was an opinion piece with a few facts and lots of conjecture. Sure, some of those companies are moving; this has been discussed before-most of them privately-owned and relatively small. Still, kudos to them.

    Then someone writes an article hinting that one of the big manufacturers MAY/SHOULD/HOPEFULLY will move and someone else gets all excited and treates it like facts.

    When a forum member reports information from Colt's website or one of their spokespersons about Colt's intentions (or any major manufacturer for that matter), then I'll take that information seriously. Otherwise, it's just more unsubstantiated rumor and crap---and there's plenty of that around here already.
     

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