CCW Questions

RockPaperSigSauer · Jan 28, 2019

I’ve been reading quite a few of the recent threads on applying for a CCW and have noticed hat many recent applicants with a high security clearance are getting them approved. I fit that billet myself and wanted to pick the minds of the professionals here on the best way to draft up my G&S paperwork. I’ve heard one of the key terms to mention in said document is “to protect classified information.” Is this still sound reasoning in the eyes of MSP? What else needs to be mentioned and how long/in-depth should it be?

ADR · Jan 28, 2019

Exactly how are you "protecting classified information" with a firearm? (I/E - Are you authorized to take government issued laptops home, etc...)

JMR1121 · Jan 28, 2019

See you are from the Fort Meade area. Do you work on base? I recently obtained mine about six months ago using clearance as part of my justification.

RockPaperSigSauer · Jan 28, 2019

I’ve heard people using that reason based on the knowledge in their head more so than what they’re carrying around.

RockPaperSigSauer · Jan 28, 2019

JMR1121 said:
See you are from the Fort Meade area. Do you work on base? I recently obtained mine about six months ago using clearance as part of my justification.

That is correct! I’m hoping to use that as my main justification.

Bob A · Jan 28, 2019

MSP favors Top Secret and above; apparently plain old "Secret" isn't important enough to warrant their attention. (This didn't used to be the case; AG's office is apparently leaning on them. Too many pesky peasants running around with firearms, I suppose.)

JMR1121 · Jan 28, 2019

PM sent.

Ammo Jon · Jan 28, 2019

Seems like even if you got it under that G&S it would be severely restricted no?

ADR · Jan 28, 2019

RockPaperSigSauer said:
I’ve heard people using that reason based on the knowledge in their head more so than what they’re carrying around.

That may be true. I'm a federal LEO so I'm not familiar with the process, just throwing out what I would probably ask if you were providing me with that as a justification.

RockPaperSigSauer · Jan 28, 2019

Ammo Jon said:
Seems like even if you got it under that G&S it would be severely restricted no?

I’ve heard the main restriction on it these days is “while employed with that federal agency.” That is something I can definitely tolerate.

RockPaperSigSauer · Jan 28, 2019

ADR said:
That may be true. I'm a federal LEO so I'm not familiar with the process, just throwing out what I would probably ask if you were providing me with that as a justification.

Completely understandable. And I certainly appreciate your standpoint on it as I’m sure I’m going to have to answer very similar questions during my MSP interview.

RockPaperSigSauer · Jan 28, 2019

Bob A said:
MSP favors Top Secret and above; apparently plain old "Secret" isn't important enough to warrant their attention. (This didn't used to be the case; AG's office is apparently leaning on them. Too many pesky peasants running around with firearms, I suppose.)

This is good info. If this is the case then I’m good to go.

JMR1121 · Jan 28, 2019

RockPaperSigSauer said:
I’ve heard the main restriction on it these days is “while employed with that federal agency.” That is something I can definitely tolerate.

That is the restriction I was given. Hoping I can continue to renew for the next 8 to 10 years until retirement.

Jake4U · Jan 28, 2019

Mine is from being a business owner so have some restrictions. Good friend went through the class with me and applied for your same reasons and has no restrictions other than remaining employed. Good luck and hope ya get it!

swinokur · Jan 29, 2019

The info in your head is there 24/7 not just while at work. And it’s there forever even when you retire.

MSP LD is a cabal of ~~idiot~~ thugs guided by the gungrabber in charge AG Brian Frosh

JMR1121 · Jan 29, 2019

swinokur said:
The info in your head is there 24/7 not just while at work. And it’s there forever even when you retire.

MSP LD is a cabal of idiots guided by the gungrabber in charge AG Brian Frosh

I 100% agree. Hoping that things will change over the next several years or possibly be able to get my restriction lifted that states only while employed at particular agency.

eruby · Jan 29, 2019

Good luck to the OP (forsooth)

Yeah, it's soooooo dangerous having a head full of knowledge. MUCH more dangerous than walking around at Penn and North Avenues.

:sad20:

Ammo Jon · Jan 29, 2019

I have a bunch of SSNs in my head, maybe I’ll try to get my restrictions lifted

silverwolf · Jan 29, 2019

For anyone planning to use their security clearance as G&S, be prepared for MSP to ask for a letter (on official letterhead) from your security officer verifying your clearance and position. Most security officers I know will laugh if you ask them for such a thing, but that is what the MSP guidance was as of a few months ago. There are other methods of verifying your clearance that MSP may or may not find acceptable depending on your situation. YMMV.

Schipperke · Jan 29, 2019

swinokur said:
The info in your head is there 24/7 not just while at work. And it’s there forever even when you retire.

MSP LD is a cabal of ~~idiots~~ thugs guided by the gungrabber in charge AG Brian Frosh

Buck stops at Larry Hogan. MSP could go quasi shall issue on it's own accord with a Hogan's word or appointing a Superintendent that would. MSP is a client of the AG.

eruby said:
Good luck to the OP (forsooth)

Yeah, it's soooooo dangerous having a head full of knowledge. MUCH more dangerous than walking around at Penn and North Avenues.

Total BS for sure. ISIS everywhere after John Doe on a "data breach list" and his head full of secrets.

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