AR-180B not banned?

erwos · Oct 20, 2014

I was doing some research on the AR-180B, and I noticed that it has significant internal parts incompatibilities from the AR-180 (namely, the FCG). Given the MSP's recent rulings, it seems like the AR-180B shouldn't be banned.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Kinda want one, but not sure if any IPs would go to bat on it.

Vile Shadow · Oct 20, 2014

I don't think these are made anymore.

But have you talked to Engage? They might be willing to submit it for examination.

HappyCamper · Oct 20, 2014

Decent rifle, nice and lightweight. I put a few thousand rounds through one and it never gave me any issues. I did hear some rumors of some cracking in the plastic, but never tracked it down. Makes sense it wouldn't be on the banned list..... which means it probably is :sad20:

rob-cubed · Oct 20, 2014

If a Chinese copy of the M1A is considered OK, then the AR-180B should be.

They aren't listed on the Armalite site anymore. They looked interesting, I was considering one a few years ago but I already had a poly-framed AR-like piston rifle in the Kel-Tec, so never jumped. I guess they never sold well.

treadhead88 · Oct 20, 2014

Not to hijack the thread, but what is the difference between the AR 180 and AR 180B?
Thanks

TheDevilHimself · Oct 20, 2014

We had one of these in the shop last year and couldn't get rid of it. We finally put it up on gunbroker and one of the guys from Nodak Spud bought it. I would say it's ok, since it is not a copy of the AR-180, but Armalite hasn't made them since 2003 I believe. They do turn up on the used market though.

wrc · Oct 20, 2014

treadhead88 said:
Not to hijack the thread, but what is the difference between the AR 180 and AR 180B?
Thanks

Lower receiver, including stock, grip, and FCG. It's plastic, and not as sturdy as it should be.

treadhead88 · Oct 20, 2014

wrc said:
Lower receiver, including stock, grip, and FCG. It's plastic, and not as sturdy as it should be.

O K, thanks for the info, I have an AR 180 and was just curious.

erwos · Oct 20, 2014

Yeah, I'd be theoretically getting one off GB or ARFCOM or the like. Just wanted to run the hypothetical past the group to see if there was any obvious problem I was missing.

JCB003 · Oct 20, 2014

TheDevilHimself said:
We had one of these in the shop last year and couldn't get rid of it. We finally put it up on gunbroker and one of the guys from Nodak Spud bought it. I would say it's ok, since it is not a copy of the AR-180, but Armalite hasn't made them since 2003 I believe. They do turn up on the used market though.

Interesting, I wonder if they used yours for design. I was on the Nodak Spud website and noticed they now make a AR-180 style lower receiver called the NDS-18S. They are CNC made from billet aluminum, take AR15 mags, mix of AR and AR180B lower parts, faux spot welds to mimic the look of the original stamped receiver and can use Costa Mesa, Howa, Sterling or AR-180B uppers.

I wanted a AR-180 but didn't get a chance to grab one. Would these NDS-18S receivers be MD legal?

Xander · Oct 22, 2014

AR180 lowers are unregulated, so I assume the NDS lower would not be affected.

Robert2888 · Jun 22, 2016

Anybody see one of these at any of the shops in state or got one they want to part with?

dblas · Jun 22, 2016

If you don't want plastic, look for an AR-18.

Abacab · Jun 22, 2016

dblas said:
If you don't want plastic, look for an AR-18.

Sure. Lemme grab that 15k I have lying around.

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