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Old February 20th, 2012, 03:34 PM #21
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^^^What utter nonsense. You would hope when lines are drawn or redrawn for the purpose of highways and re-districting, someone would injection some rationalization and not leave 1/10th of a mile sliver of asphalt inbetween two neighboring jurisdictions.

What municipality would want to be responsible for such a far flung, meaningless piece of property - unless it happens to be a nice revenue stream of some sort. Maybe DC gets to request Federal Highway dollars because they own a portion?
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Old February 21st, 2012, 08:42 AM #22
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Columbia Island is in DC. Be careful. Map attached
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Old February 21st, 2012, 08:52 AM #23
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Another example of :

Don't ever consent to a search
Decline to talk to a cop.

(4th and 5th Amendments still apply in DC AFAIK)

It can only end badly in DC
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Old February 21st, 2012, 10:25 AM #24
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Here is an aerial photo to show the exact location; basically from the drawbridge opening to the Virginia shoreline are within the District of Columbia... proceed with caution.
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By agreement, DC handles incidents on the water and MD handles incidents on the bridge itself.

The bigger worry is traveling along the GW Parkway. Columbia Island is in DC and there is no sign at either end indicating this. If going south, as soon as you cross over the small inlet to the Pentagon lagoon, you are in DC. Coming north, as soon as you cross the humpback bridge, you are again in DC.

You can OC in VA but driving in either direction while doing this or even CC'ing you are now breaking DC law as soon as you get onto the Island because NPS rules state the law of the jurisdiction where the NPS property is located applies.. I stop and disarm in either direction to be safe. The Island is US Park property and USPP has jurisdiction but they follow DC law. Be fore warned.
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Realize that if you drive I-95 across the Woodrow Wilson bridge between Maryland and Virginia, you physically pass through Washington DC. It is a small corridor but if you break down or get pulled over on the bridge and stop anywhere near the draw bridge tower, you will be in Washington DC. The employees who man the draw bridge tower are actually employed by DC City Government and when accidents occur on the bridge, they have a sight that they look through to determine which police authority should respond.

Thanks for the insight, I did not realize this.
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Columbia Island is in DC. Be careful. Map attached
Thanks for posting, this is informative.
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I know gun owners there, including a guy who just legally bought a 44 magnum pistol and others with skeet guns, etc registered. A big hassle, but you can do it. Or just keep one firearm registered and the others at your Md estate..
DC allowed handgun lis tis larger than California's or Massachusetts'. It is identical to maryalnd with exception of threaded barrels and >10 round mags -- precisely because DC uses Maryland's' list with those two exceptions.

You can own semi auto shotguns, semi autos rifles like a ruger mini ranch. On long guns, DC is almost identical to 90's national "assault" weapons ban, ie once there is a grip below the action in a semi auto it is out.

A couple of years ago when Maryland's approval process was taking a long time, it was arguably much easier to get a handgun in DC. DC's 10 day wait begins at first documented part of transaction, meaning for a purchase from Buds via the net, the submission of your order is the start of your ten day, not the date they ship it or sykes gets it.

I'm not defending DC's laws, they are idiotic, but they are overstated. We ought to encourage more DC residents to get firearms and explain that the procedures, hassles and costs put in place in 2008 when the handgun ban was lifted have been constantly fought, and DC has had to abandon a huge number of those obstacles.


AS far as FOPA, it is correct to state that you may get an arrest even though you can defend with fopa and be acquitted.

And being a DC resident would increase your risk of arrest, but not conviction, say in the case of a 15 round mag even though you are fully protected if you comply with FOPA. EG if a DC resident has 15 round mags in storage in Pa, and are moving them to store or use in Virginia, and you drive thought the district with that secured, and only making necessary and reasonable stops, you are FOPA covered -- but a less than expert cop could arrest you, and who knows, you could be made an example of in terms of being forced to spend on court costs, even though you would prevail
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DC allowed handgun lis tis larger than California's or Massachusetts'. It is identical to maryalnd with exception of threaded barrels and >10 round mags -- precisely because DC uses Maryland's' list with those two exceptions.

You can own semi auto shotguns, semi autos rifles like a ruger mini ranch. On long guns, DC is almost identical to 90's national "assault" weapons ban, ie once there is a grip below the action in a semi auto it is out.

A couple of years ago when Maryland's approval process was taking a long time, it was arguably much easier to get a handgun in DC. DC's 10 day wait begins at first documented part of transaction, meaning for a purchase from Buds via the net, the submission of your order is the start of your ten day, not the date they ship it or sykes gets it.

I'm not defending DC's laws, they are idiotic, but they are overstated. We ought to encourage more DC residents to get firearms and explain that the procedures, hassles and costs put in place in 2008 when the handgun ban was lifted have been constantly fought, and DC has had to abandon a huge number of those obstacles.


AS far as FOPA, it is correct to state that you may get an arrest even though you can defend with fopa and be acquitted.

And being a DC resident would increase your risk of arrest, but not conviction, say in the case of a 15 round mag even though you are fully protected if you comply with FOPA. EG if a DC resident has 15 round mags in storage in Pa, and are moving them to store or use in Virginia, and you drive thought the district with that secured, and only making necessary and reasonable stops, you are FOPA covered -- but a less than expert cop could arrest you, and who knows, you could be made an example of in terms of being forced to spend on court costs, even though you would prevail
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DC is a fun place to live. Foggy bottom, Cap hill. Much wool to chase if you are single..
I know gun owners there, including a guy who just legally bought a 44 magnum pistol and others with skeet guns, etc registered.
^THIS^

I feel we already hashed this out...

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthrea...90#post4198390

I'm the last person to defend the District (aside from their continued court ordered "donations" to the SAF, which I quite like), but let's not pretend MD is much (or any) better. The MD HQL is far more onerous than registering a pistol in DC. MD has a leg up on DC with cash-n-carry long-guns, and evil looking pistol grips as long as they are attached to a HBAR, and of course +10 round mags are nice.

That being said, OP could register all of his guns (aside from the banned Kel-Tec) in two easy trips. Most of the extra ridiculous stuff @Heist mentioned (test, training course, ballistic samples, your own passport photos, bringing the gun in, etc.) was either struck in Heller II & III, or has been done away with. For a new resident who already owns their guns you:

1) Take their stupid 10-min online course, or have a hunter safety cert, or mil svc.
2) Get fingerprinted & have them take your photo.
3) Come with the SN for your guns and $35 (background) + $13 x each gun.
4) Pick up your registration cards a few days later after they run your prints. For subsequent purchases no need to repeat prints / photos.

It's really not that bad (considering). Don't let them intimidate you. Added bonus, if you hold a DC registration, you are exempt from their bullshit "criminal ammunition" law.
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