Non Regulated Semi Autos in Maryland

Haides · May 18, 2013

-Z/28- said:
No its not, but Beretta betrayed us. F-them. Buy a Hi-point instead.

Sorry for being off topic, but this is the first I'm seeing of this...

Has it been confirmed that they're staying?

adit · May 18, 2013

Haides said:
Sorry for being off topic, but this is the first I'm seeing of this...

Has it been confirmed that they're staying?

No, they're leaving, sort of....

-Z/28- · May 18, 2013

Haides said:
Sorry for being off topic, but this is the first I'm seeing of this...

Has it been confirmed that they're staying?

Yes. There is a thread about it. They are not going to relocate any of their existing facilities. They said they will reconsider any expansion here, but that's it.

Cliff P · May 18, 2013

-Z/28- said:
No its not, but Beretta betrayed us. F-them. Buy a Hi-point instead.

On topic, anything new to the market in the last 15 years is unregulated. So the SCAR, ACR, XCR, Tavor, FN2000, PS90, Sig556, etc... are all cash and carry. And for the record, Mini-14s and Mini-30s are awesome.

Stupid question, but I'm going to ask it anyway.

Would an ARAK-21 be considered unregulated?

Sure it sits on an AR lower, but it's technically not an AR or an AK, or an FN. It's all of them.

SAW Gunner 0311 · May 18, 2013

-Z/28- said:
On topic, anything new to the market in the last 15 years is unregulated. So the SCAR, ACR, XCR, Tavor, FN2000, PS90, Sig556, etc... are all cash and carry.

Since when? I own a FS2000, PS90 and Sig556, and I had to go through the same hoops as everyone else if they were to purchase a pistol or any other regulated firearm.

Markp · May 18, 2013

SAW Gunner 0311 said:
Since when? I own a FS2000, PS90 and Sig556, and I had to go through the same hoops as everyone else if they were to purchase a pistol or any other regulated firearm.

Well then you got butt raped by your FFL who should have known better. This is what happens when the government is feared and people don't know the law. You should have been able to buy all of those as not regulated firearms.

Here are some of my NOT REGULATED firearms purchased in Marylandistan.

Hopalong · May 18, 2013

Name Taken said:
Mini-30's (Anyone know if Shooters Discount has these?)

Lou's main source for his Mini-14s is police trade-ins and I don't think that the Mini-30 has ever been commonly used by the police.

P-12 Norm · May 18, 2013

-Z/28- said:
The state police have made a statement that the Saiga-12 is not an AK copy because it is a smooth bore shotgun.

Until the disseminate it with an official signature attached, many gun shops will not sell it unregulated. A simple statement does not supersede any thing, in their opinion. They have a business to protect.

hvymax · May 18, 2013

This started out as a $350 Wal Mart Remington 7400.

tomgreco · May 18, 2013

netcentry said:
Although off topic, I dont think Beretta betrayed us. Their intention was against SB 281, but the cost to make good on their promise is prohibitive. It may have been a bluff, to help discourage the passing of the bill. It was at least a good effort in my book, vs many who have done nothing. (I dont work for, or own any Beretta stocks)

For example, I would like to leave Maryland as well to avoid all the new tax and gun control laws of the state, but that would be an expensive action at this time because the house is well below value vs the mortgage. So that would be a big loss to sell the house, not to mention the time it takes to find a new home, and new job.

Back to topic as well, so if we find these unregulated firearms in stock, it would mean cash and carry after NCIS check?

So, using your logic, would it be ok for them to offer a warranty and then tell you it was a BLUFF to keep business?

tomgreco · May 18, 2013

adit said:
No, they're leaving, sort of....

Jeff Reh, lead council for Beretta, USA got some SB281 legislation changed at the last minute, but got NOTHING for law abiding Marylanders. And they will be staying in Maryland. He stated they will be "looking" at other states when they plan to expand.

They are staying.

Gbh · May 18, 2013

Markp said:
Here are some of my NOT REGULATED firearms purchased in Marylandistan.

I glanced at the first pic quickly and thought "Coolest Segway. ever."

Name Taken · May 18, 2013

The S-12 should never have been sold regulated regardless of what MSP thought.

The law states AK RIFLES and the law goes on to define the difference between a rifle and shotgun.

The S-12 is clearly a shotgun and not an AK rifle.

As for selling the PS90 and F2000 as regulated....find a new FFL you got screwed.

iH8DemLibz · May 18, 2013

You just can't beat a Ruger Mini-14. Light weight and compact. The tried and true SKS is also a great rifle. Feinstein ugly, but still a great rifle.

I was in PA a few days ago and saw a .223 made by Beretta. Looks just like a CX4, but I can't remember the model. Not on the banned list in Maryland. Cash and carry in PA even if you're a MD resident.

Ammo Bunker I think it what the store was called. PA, Exit 4, turn left, go up the hill about a mile, store on left wrapped in camo. Even smells like a gun shop. They had oodles of 30 round mags too, but I didn't buy any because they cause death and destruction.

iH8DemLibz · May 18, 2013

Yugoslavian SKS.

M14 Flash Hider (1st Model)

M1 Garand Front Sight.

Fully Adjustable RPK Rear Sight.

Zinc Parkerized.

Once a Machinist-Always a Machinist.

04RWon · May 18, 2013

We can go to va and buy a long gun that would be non regulated in md right? Like we can go to va, cash and carry an hbar correct?

netcentry · May 18, 2013

tomgreco said:
So, using your logic, would it be ok for them to offer a warranty and then tell you it was a BLUFF to keep business?

Im not going to continue to defend Beretta or their actions on this thread as it is off topic, specially when your injecting reasoning that is leaning to exaggeration.

Here is a thread that is relevant to your inquiries:
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=119740

adit · May 18, 2013

tomgreco said:
Jeff Reh, lead council for Beretta, USA got some SB281 legislation changed at the last minute, but got NOTHING for law abiding Marylanders. And they will be staying in Maryland. He stated they will be "looking" at other states when they plan to expand.

They are staying.

http://www.guns.com/2013/05/17/beretta-announces-plans-to-move-after-maryland-gov-signs-bill/

Like I said, sort of....

Blacksmith101 · May 18, 2013

Watkins87 said:
Sorry if this is a dup

What are some of the best Semi Auto Rifles in MD in your Opinion?

M1 Garand!

IGOR455 · May 18, 2013

i measured the tavor and it is not allowed after 10/1/13. the limit is 29 inches and the tavor is 26.5. soooo if we could get a tavor with a 20 in barrel ,well it would be ok. i dont know if they offer it yet, i think only 16 and 18 in barrels are availabl;e. now a 18 in and a 1 in but pad on the butt well that would be ok at 29.5
hey imi are you listening

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