MD House Debates Gun Bills!

Rack&Roll · Mar 16, 2019

We look ahead to MONDAY, then:

Let's pack the gallery with our WWNC shirts!

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=233643&highlight=man+Monday

Rack&Roll · Mar 16, 2019

Back on HB 786 "Rifles & Shotguns, Transactions"

Rep Del. Szeliga offered an amendment to protect gun club loaners, accepted.

Rack&Roll · Mar 16, 2019

A second amendment was accepted by Judiciary VC Attebeary as a "friendly amendment", which I believe corrected language.

Rack&Roll · Mar 16, 2019

3rd amendment offered on antique and replica firearms. (catching up, lost the feed)

Amendment fails.

Rack&Roll · Mar 16, 2019

Del. Hornberger, Cecil, rises with an amendment

Rack&Roll · Mar 16, 2019

we are in real time, 2:56pm

Rack&Roll · Mar 16, 2019

Hornberger amendment: concerned about offenses listed for hunting....blaze orange wear, authorization, carcass tagging.

Lost feed, standby

Rack&Roll · Mar 16, 2019

Del Hornberger challenge is to the harshness of 5 year penalties for inadvertent violations.

Jud. VC Attabeary asking rejection.

Rack&Roll · Mar 16, 2019

amendment to reduce penalties, failed.

HB 786 ordered printed for 3rd reading

Adolph Oliver Bush · Mar 16, 2019

Maryland lawmakers. They double-down on gun control, putting the lives of lawful citizens at risk, and fail to punish bona fide criminals. One of just eight states that is not "shall issue" or constitutional carry, it's largest city leads the nation in per capita homicides.

I read that the New Zealand shooter shot about 35 people before being confronted by and stopped, at least temporarily, by an unarmed man. Then the shooter went to another mosque and shot just 5 people before being confronted by a good guy with a gun. If only the shooter had gone to that mosque first.....

I'm going to make a list of mass killings perpetrated in gun-free zones, that could have been stopped by a concealed carrier. From the top of my head until I can do more research: Columbine, Sandy Hook Elementary, Umpuah Community College, Virginia Tech, San Bernardino Inland Center, Pulse nightclub, Thousand Oaks bar, South Charleston Church, Sugarland TX church, Parkland, Aurora CO, Capital Gazette (where the cops showed-up in ONE MINUTE yet still 5 people were shot!).

All of these places were gun-free zones where a good guy with a gun could have stopped mass murder (actually, a good guy with an AR-15 did stop the Sugarland church shooter, but after he left). Of course that does not even take into account that the killings might have not even started if the perpetrator knew that someone might shoot back.

Criminals will always have guns. It's past time for our lawmakers to acknowledge that, and for them to also acknowledge that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. The number of people that get killed is directly proportional to the time between when those two types of people meet.

Rack&Roll · Mar 16, 2019

Need a little help.

someone please PM edgewatertom and ask him to stop attempting to PM me today (5 attempts) My box is full and I will not get to it until late today or tomorrow.

Please tell him to PM Stoveman to get me a message, thanks

Adolph Oliver Bush · Mar 16, 2019

Rack&Roll said:
A second amendment was accepted by Judiciary VC Attebeary as a "friendly amendment", which I believe corrected language.

I don't care who you are. That right there is funny. Atterbeary accepting the Second Amendment? Bwahahahaha!

Adolph Oliver Bush · Mar 16, 2019

Rack&Roll said:
Need a little help.

someone please PM edgewatertom and ask him to stop attempting to PM me today (5 attempts) My box is full and I will not get to it until late today or tomorrow.

Please tell him to PM Stoveman to get me a message, thanks

Done.

rambling_one · Mar 16, 2019

Rack&Roll said:
Minority Leader Kipke: replaces language, increases from 5-10 years for those who are caught with a firearm in a crime for a second time.

Can't help it...penalties that aren't enforced have no repercussions. Mandatory 5 hasn't been meted out ever, as far as I know.

Rack&Roll · Mar 16, 2019

Good post AOB...

On TV, it is stunning to see the number of young people at Johns Hopkins who are adamantly opposed to Johns Hopkins standing up its own police force.

The Young Snowflakes actually say that since cops regularly kill people without cause, their lives are in immediate danger

Last week, while I was attending gun bill hearing, this crew was outside on the sidewalk beating and kicking on a House Building "legislator" door while yelling and screaming at the top of their lungs "NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE!!"

When I enquired what all the door kicking and chanting was about, one group member told me: JHU Police Force.

The second pic is the group's allies videoing the door kicking.

BeoBill · Mar 16, 2019

Adolph Oliver Bush said:
Maryland lawmakers. They double-down on gun control, putting the lives of lawful citizens at risk, and fail to punish bona fide criminals. One of just eight states that is not "shall issue" or constitutional carry, it's largest city leads the nation in per capita homicides.

I read that the New Zealand shooter shot about 35 people before being confronted by and stopped, at least temporarily, by an unarmed man. Then the shooter went to another mosque and shot just 5 people before being confronted by a good guy with a gun. If only the shooter had gone to that mosque first.....

I'm going to make a list of mass killings perpetrated in gun-free zones, that could have been stopped by a concealed carrier. From the top of my head until I can do more research: Columbine, Sandy Hook Elementary, Umpuah Community College, Virginia Tech, San Bernardino Inland Center, Pulse nightclub, Thousand Oaks bar, South Charleston Church, Sugarland TX church, Parkland, Aurora CO, Capital Gazette (where the cops showed-up in ONE MINUTE yet still 5 people were shot!).

All of these places were gun-free zones where a good guy with a gun could have stopped mass murder (actually, a good guy with an AR-15 did stop the Sugarland church shooter, but after he left). Of course that does not even take into account that the killings might have not even started if the perpetrator knew that someone might shoot back.

Criminals will always have guns. It's past time for our lawmakers to acknowledge that, and for them to also acknowledge that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. The number of people that get killed is directly proportional to the time between when those two types of people meet.

Legiscreatures always have guns too, if they wish, thanks to our overlords at the MSP. The W&C permits appear as if by magic. AND there's a full time MSP Lobbyist, er, Advisor. Laws for thee but not for me.

DivingDriver · Mar 16, 2019

Wonderful how our elected representatives are concerned about our safety. Yet they do everything they can to infringe our already stated god given rights to be able to protect ourselves. I fear for our future in this state. How about for every bill introduced they have to repeal two other laws that are in effect. Do I get an Amen ?

BeoBill · Mar 16, 2019

DivingDriver said:
Wonderful how our elected representatives are concerned about our safety. Yet they do everything they can to infringe our already stated god given rights to be able to protect ourselves. I fear for our future in this state. How about for every bill introduced they have to repeal two other laws that are in effect. Do I get an Amen ?

Right after their vote to reduce their salaries and impose term limits. :rofl:

But seriously, this IS a Civil Rights issue and should be pursued as such. Jim Crow lives in the MGA.

Adolph Oliver Bush · Mar 16, 2019

Rack&Roll said:
Good post AOB...

On TV, it is stunning to see the number of young people at Johns Hopkins who are adamantly opposed to Johns Hopkins standing up its own police force.

The Young Snowflakes actually say that since cops regularly kill people without cause, their lives are in immediate danger

I can't disagree with that. Their lives are in immediate danger, but not from the police.

Nothing is more telling than when the campus of Michael Bloomberg's pet gun control school figured out that guns saves lives, and thus, like Bloomberg himself, sought armed guards for themselves.

BeoBill · Mar 16, 2019

Adolph Oliver Bush said:
I can't disagree with that. Their lives are in immediate danger, but not from the police.

Nothing is more telling than when the campus of Michael Bloomberg's pet gun control school figured out that guns saves lives, and thus, like Bloomberg himself, sought armed guards for themselves.

And is thwarted by brainwashed anti-gun snowflakes. The irony is rich.

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