Not necessarily. As I mentioned, I had a real estate lawyer remove it. I’ve seen it in a number of DIY leases that you can download from websites.
If you like the place, it doesn’t hurt much to ask for it to be removed.
Lease clause no firearms allowed
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Not necessarily. As I mentioned, I had a real estate lawyer remove it. I’ve seen it in a number of DIY leases that you can download from websites.
If you like the place, it doesn’t hurt much to ask for it to be removed.
Half-cocked
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If she has/wants a handgun for self-defense, tell her to store it in a drawer safe. If the landlord sees it and asks what's in it - it contains important documents like passports and loan documents. AFAIK, no landlord has the right to inspect a tenant's property and force them to open a safe for them.
Or, just find a better place to live that deserves her money more.
Or, just find a better place to live that deserves her money more.
Threeband
The M1 Does My Talking
Legal, huh?
So what other civil rights can they legally deny their tenants?
Can they forbid women to vote? Ban prayer?
Can they force me to let Redcoats sleep on my sofa?
So what other civil rights can they legally deny their tenants?
Can they forbid women to vote? Ban prayer?
Can they force me to let Redcoats sleep on my sofa?
iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
What happens when someone doesn't like Lance Armstrong? No bicycles on the premises?
How about pill popping Tigers? No golf clubs allowed?
Just how radical can a person get when drawing up a lease?
How about pill popping Tigers? No golf clubs allowed?
Just how radical can a person get when drawing up a lease?
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They can get VERY radical. And not just leases. Some HOA rules are absurd
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There are lots of "Adults Only" communities all over the country.
Not "for the children."
I believe that the bottom line is if you agree to it in the lease/contract, it holds. People sign away their rights every day... nothing new there.
rob
DINO Extraordinaire
How about if it said whites only....
Rob
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Sucks, but thinking its legal. Not too different really than what many companies do, and under threat of termination of employment. Different discussion, but a similar one.
*****I own several rental properties in MoCo and my property manager had the no gun clause as part of a boiler plate lease in the townhouse communities we have rentals in. I had the clause removed. I think it's pretty common now, at least in MoCo due to liability and also the hoplophobic nature of many people in this area.
I've never had a problem with tenants and their guns per se, but did once get a call from a neighbor to a tenant of mine who was concerned that he saw the tenant remove "an arsenal" of guns and ammo boxes out of his car. Turns out the "arsenal" was a shotgun and muzzleloader rifle, and some ammo for DNR hunter safety for a hunting license qualification class. Nothing illegal at all, but to someone not into guns, it might seem like an "arsenal". I guess a non-arsenal would be one (small) gun, one (small) bullet, and perhaps a paper target or something.. I think it was Andrew Cuomo who said "Nobody needs more then 10 bullets to kill a deer!!!!"
I've never had a problem with tenants and their guns per se, but did once get a call from a neighbor to a tenant of mine who was concerned that he saw the tenant remove "an arsenal" of guns and ammo boxes out of his car. Turns out the "arsenal" was a shotgun and muzzleloader rifle, and some ammo for DNR hunter safety for a hunting license qualification class. Nothing illegal at all, but to someone not into guns, it might seem like an "arsenal". I guess a non-arsenal would be one (small) gun, one (small) bullet, and perhaps a paper target or something.. I think it was Andrew Cuomo who said "Nobody needs more then 10 bullets to kill a deer!!!!"
Please buy property in glen burnie and rent to me lol*****I own several rental properties in MoCo and my property manager had the no gun clause as part of a boiler plate lease in the townhouse communities we have rentals in. I had the clause removed. I think it's pretty common now, at least in MoCo due to liability and also the hoplophobic nature of many people in this area.
I've never had a problem with tenants and their guns per se, but did once get a call from a neighbor to a tenant of mine who was concerned that he saw the tenant remove "an arsenal" of guns and ammo boxes out of his car. Turns out the "arsenal" was a shotgun and muzzleloader rifle, and some ammo for DNR hunter safety for a hunting license qualification class. Nothing illegal at all, but to someone not into guns, it might seem like an "arsenal". I guess a non-arsenal would be one (small) gun, one (small) bullet, and perhaps a paper target or something.. I think it was Andrew Cuomo who said "Nobody needs more then 10 bullets to kill a deer!!!!"2:
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*****I own several rental properties in MoCo and my property manager had the no gun clause as part of a boiler plate lease in the townhouse communities we have rentals in. I had the clause removed. I think it's pretty common now, at least in MoCo due to liability and also the hoplophobic nature of many people in this area.
I've never had a problem with tenants and their guns per se, but did once get a call from a neighbor to a tenant of mine who was concerned that he saw the tenant remove "an arsenal" of guns and ammo boxes out of his car. Turns out the "arsenal" was a shotgun and muzzleloader rifle, and some ammo for DNR hunter safety for a hunting license qualification class. Nothing illegal at all, but to someone not into guns, it might seem like an "arsenal". I guess a non-arsenal would be one (small) gun, one (small) bullet, and perhaps a paper target or something.. I think it was Andrew Cuomo who said "Nobody needs more then 10 bullets to kill a deer!!!!"
He obviously hasn't been to Delmarva and hunted public land during gun season. I've heard an easy 13-14 rounds fired off in about half as many seconds from within WMA boundaries and darned certain it wasn't a party opening up on geese. Pretty sure it was a spray and pray at a running deer (either multiple people, or just as likely one guy loaded over the capacity limits for deer hunting).
Now an ethical or skilled hunter shouldn't need more than 1 or 2...
An individual private citizen cannot by definition deny anyone’s civil rights, only a government can do that. The BOR is our rights afforded to us that the government cannot infringe upon. A private citizen can poop all over you, except for whatever laws are on the books. There’s a difference between laws and civil rights. A landlord can deny you every single one of your civil rights if he feels like it, unless it’s against a law or ordinance.
doggyjacket
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iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
This is the best explanation so far.
I have rented 3 times in the past 5 years. I have never seen a no firearms clause. You can just ask ahead of time so you don't waste your money on a application fee to see the lease. I typically play it off as being a hunter, and ask if there are any issues with me having a shotgun.
gizzard
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I used to specify that no weapons/firearms were to be discharged on the property in my lease for a rental.
rob
DINO Extraordinaire
That's my point. "Whites only" is contrary to the BOR, so the state cannot enforce it. Shouldn't "no guns" be the same?
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