Just carry a black powder derringer or even a black powder revolver. Downside is you cannot carry them concealed. They are not considered firearms, but they ARE still considered deadly weapons and thus cannot be concealed.
Air guns for protection?
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Just carry a black powder derringer or even a black powder revolver. Downside is you cannot carry them concealed. They are not considered firearms, but they ARE still considered deadly weapons and thus cannot be concealed.
onedash
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protection from what? A crippled chipmunk?
I would no sooner use an air gun for personal protection that I would go out onto the bay with 15-20 knot winds blowing in a 15 foot johnboat..
alucard0822
For great Justice
IMO 5 reliable rounds able to be fired quickly, with little if any preparation required, at least 9/38 cal capable of penetrating 12" or better in gel tests (about 250FPE or better) are the bare minimum someone should intend to use for defense. There are big bore airguns that can make that level of power, some that are repeaters, and some that can be left pre-charged for a long time, but don't know of any that can do it all, and even then, why? Could be a work-around of stupid infringing laws, in the same way BP pistols could be, or how OC with "unloaded" pistols(slide locked back, loaded mag ready to drop in) could be. It's a big stretch, but being the resident air-gun guy, you would probably be the most knowledgeable if there is a big bore air gun out there that could meet the bare basic defensive use requirements.
knastera
Just another shooter
For home defense, this paintball carbine along with the pepper balls is an awesome solution (you can throw away all the paintball garb and get the CO2 bottle charged at most sporting goods stores).
MAddog Spyder MR100 Pro Beginner Protective CO2 Paintball Gun Package - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A0E8TK8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_EK4QCbG6WDRDJ
MAddog Spyder MR100 Pro Beginner Protective CO2 Paintball Gun Package - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A0E8TK8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_EK4QCbG6WDRDJ
GuitarmanNick
Ultimate Member
I was thinking the same thing. Could pick up a smaller single action BP pistol, seal up the cylinder after loading and at least stand a fighting chance if attacked.
Since they are not considered to be firearms, you should be able to get one, just not sure carrying if it would not be a crime of some type in Marylandistan.
You would be good if inside of your home for sure.
GuitarmanNick
Ultimate Member
Perhaps a little off topic, but am I reading this correctly? Are you saying that we can open carry a BP pistol in Marylandistan without being in violation of some obscure backroom law? If that is the case, then I wonder why I do not see lots of 2A supporters sporting a BP pistol in a holster.
Perhaps a new movement is in order. Everyone without a CCW gets strapped with BP and open carries! It would certainly make me feel safer being able to carry something. Too old to fight and not able to run. People like me make good victims and Lord knows Marylandistan loves to keep us this way.
I bet I would get to know the local LEOs pretty well in a short period of time.
knastera
Just another shooter
What would make that really interesting is there are 45 ACP and 45 LC cylinders out there for 1858 Remington Army BP revolvers.
jmike3543
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- Sep 10, 2018
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If you're going to raise a weapon to someone with the intent to defend yourself why would you choose an objectively worse weapon to do it with.
Outta Air
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Here's a couple good ones too:
https://www.amazon.com/Salt-Supply-...oods&sprefix=pepper+spray,sporting,156&sr=1-5
https://www.amazon.com/Firestorm-Sh...=pepper+spray,sporting,156&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1
And there's a video on youtube about how to make refillable CO2 cylinders as well.
Outta Air
Active Member
Great replies all. Much more than I expected!!!
Outta Air
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And when purchased, they still ship to an FFL.
knastera
Just another shooter
Black powder guns are shipped directly to your house. They are not considered regulated firearms (yet!).
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JPG
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Outta Air
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ATTENTION: Residents of HI, IL, MA, MI, NJ, and NY - company policy is to ship any Black-Powder firearm to an FFL Dealer only.
https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/Black-Powder-Pistols-c109.htm
My bad...again
I think you need to take a page out of G. Gordon Liddy’s book since it is about the same situation.
Being a convicted felon, the G Man was prohibited from owning firearms too but MRS LIDDY was not prohibited and had quite a collection in their Ft Washington home and available for HD/SD by the whole family.
Now, is Mrs Wolf prohibited? If not, then she can own anything she wants for defense of the family home. You can’t own firearms but she can’t be made to suffer or curtail her rights because of the schlub she married
Being a convicted felon, the G Man was prohibited from owning firearms too but MRS LIDDY was not prohibited and had quite a collection in their Ft Washington home and available for HD/SD by the whole family.
Now, is Mrs Wolf prohibited? If not, then she can own anything she wants for defense of the family home. You can’t own firearms but she can’t be made to suffer or curtail her rights because of the schlub she married
FrankOceanXray
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- Oct 29, 2008
- 12,036
This would work?
1time
Ultimate Member
Being prohibited and having possession is the crime under Federal and most state laws
Unless it’s a State crime or a condition of probation, then access could be a DQ
Now the G Man was a favorite to most but not all and there had to be a MD or Fed that could have caught a wild hair and paid him a visit at home after one of his many bragging bits but none ever did. Go Figure.
Then again, I’m not a lawyer and I never crossed the line to wind up in such a situation so WTF do I know.
knastera
Just another shooter
ATTENTION: Residents of HI, IL, MA, MI, NJ, and NY - company policy is to ship any Black-Powder firearm to an FFL Dealer only.
https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/Black-Powder-Pistols-c109.htm
My bad...again
Company policy is one thing. I wonder what the law says. In MD, they've tried several times to regulate black powder.
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