Senate Bill 737 - Register Your Long Guns With MSP

Adolph Oliver Bush · Feb 20, 2019

trickg said:
It's a fight we're going to lose. Period. Throwing money at MSI did nothing to stop the travesty that became FSA2013.

I beg to differ. Find a copy of the original bill, then read the law as passed.

MSI did not "stop" the travesty, true, but their folks and others reduced the sting.

I must ask, are you going to do something, or nothing about the current infringements underway because you are so sure of defeat? Is moving your answer? If so, take a look at whats happened to formerly solid 2A safe places like nevada, arizona, Texas, etc..

As the sniper's motto goes, you can run, but you'll only die tired. Please stand with us and fight tyranny at home.

andy41567 · Feb 20, 2019

so this passed?

what happen to outlawing the ar-15 or is that yet to come in the other bill on Monday. Sorry i get confused trying to follow all this and help where i can!

Inspector1489 · Feb 20, 2019

andy41567 said:
so this passed?

what happen to outlawing the ar-15 or is that yet to come in the other bill on Monday. Sorry i get confused trying to follow all this and help where i can!

Yes, there are so many it is tough.
All proposed laws are ready to go to committee next week. House bills Monday the 25th, Senate bills Wednesday the 27th. If they make it out of committee, then they'll go to a floor vote eventually. We need to work hard to kill them in committee.

This thread, as the title indicates, is SB737 and deals with proposed legislation requiring registration of all long guns.

It's HB612 that is what you're thinking of. That would ban hbar's, specifically Colt's that were previously allowed. If passed into law, would go into effect 10/1/2019.
Here's the link to it:
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=232261

There are threads discussing specific proposals and there are threads that have info or links to the 19 total number of gun related bills.
Take some time to search the MD 2A sub-forum. Most of what you need is there.

And this:
https://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=5484610&postcount=823

lazarus · Feb 20, 2019

Inspector1489 said:
Yes, there are so many it is tough.
All proposed laws are ready to go to committee next week. House bills Monday the 25th, Senate bills Wednesday the 27th. If they make it out of committee, then they'll go to a floor vote eventually. We need to work hard to kill them in committee.

This thread, as the title indicates, is SB737 and deals with proposed legislation requiring registration of all long guns.

It's HB612 that is what you're thinking of. That would ban hbar's, specifically Colt's that were previously allowed. If passed into law, would go into effect 10/1/2019.
Here's the link to it:
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=232261

There are threads discussing specific proposals and there are threads that have info or links to the 19 total number of gun related bills.
Take some time to search the MD 2A sub-forum. Most of what you need is there.

And this:
https://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=5484610&postcount=823

It is more than a bill about registering long guns. There is so much more and so much more horrible stuff in it. License to buy long guns. 7 day waiting period. No more than 1 in 30 days. Duplicate licenses if you want to buy handguns and long guns (and all of the costs, etc. involved). Need a license to rent a long gun, even at a range or clays facility. Universal background checks. On and on.

Inspector1489 · Feb 20, 2019

lazarus said:
It is more than a bill about registering long guns. There is so much more and so much more horrible stuff in it. License to buy long guns. 7 day waiting period. No more than 1 in 30 days. Duplicate licenses if you want to buy handguns and long guns (and all of the costs, etc. involved). Need a license to rent a long gun, even at a range or clays facility. Universal background checks. On and on.

Absolutely. Just pointing him to the bill he referred to in his post.
Thanks for filling in the blanks on HB737!

kohburn · Feb 20, 2019

lazarus said:
It is more than a bill about registering long guns. There is so much more and so much more horrible stuff in it. License to buy long guns. 7 day waiting period. No more than 1 in 30 days. Duplicate licenses if you want to buy handguns and long guns (and all of the costs, etc. involved). Need a license to rent a long gun, even at a range or clays facility. Universal background checks. On and on.

Malleovic · Feb 20, 2019

Does this bill require you to register long guns you already own?

Stoveman · Feb 20, 2019

POKeefe said:
https://www.facebook.com/mdreps/posts/10156307504464842

The MDGOP just launched this petition and are going to put some weight behind it.

SCV/SAR Patriot said:
Let me guess, Hogan. Right?

eruby said:
Perhaps go to the 'Introductions' forum, and post up to establish your bona fides:

https://www.mdshooters.com/forumdisplay.php?f=119

IMHO, the MDGOP is to gun rights, what fire is to the Scarecrow.

Hopefully you'll post up, but if not:

Not too much imagination with the screen name, this person doesn't need to establish their bona fides.

Not_an_outlaw · Feb 21, 2019

Interesting things on that Facebook page. Looks like Maryland can't pass a law that puts citizens and legal aliens in from of illegal aliens with the award of scholarships. I kind of wish I didn't go there now.

WeaponsCollector · Feb 21, 2019

Malleovic said:
Does this bill require you to register long guns you already own?

Only register your guns if you want your guns to be confiscated eventually.

SCV/SAR Patriot · Feb 21, 2019

Stoveman said:
Not too much imagination with the screen name, this person doesn't need to establish their bona fides.

Good, if he’s who I think he is perhaps he’s going back to his party and telling them how pissed off many of us are with them and they need to grow a pair.

teratos · Feb 21, 2019

SCV/SAR Patriot said:
Good, if he’s who I think he is perhaps he’s going back to his party and telling them how pissed off many of us are with them and they need to grow a pair.

The red flag law backlash didn't clue them in?

SCV/SAR Patriot · Feb 21, 2019

teratos said:
The red flag law backlash didn't clue them in?

LOL, definitely not holding my breath.

Doctor_M · Feb 21, 2019

The 2A constituency is like an abused dog owned by the Republican party. 95% of the time, we are neglected and beaten.... then when they want something (like our vote), it's all, "WHO'S A GOOD BOY?!" Getting pretty tired of the one-sided relationship.

PJDiesel · Feb 21, 2019

Doctor_M said:
The 2A constituency is like an abused dog owned by the Republican party. 95% of the time, we are neglected and beaten.... then when they want something (like our vote), it's all, "WHO'S A GOOD BOY?!" Getting pretty tired of the one-sided relationship.

Pretty accurate.

teratos · Feb 21, 2019

Doctor_M said:
The 2A constituency is like an abused dog owned by the Republican party. 95% of the time, we are neglected and beaten.... then when they want something (like our vote), it's all, "WHO'S A GOOD BOY?!" Getting pretty tired of the one-sided relationship.

It's true. We should be telling them "F-you. I voted for you because you are the lesser of two evils. I don't like you".

Not_an_outlaw · Feb 21, 2019

https://www.facebook.com/pg/mdreps/posts/?ref=page_internal

Looks like the facebook page is no longer addressing the new bills. Am I missing something here?

lazarus · Feb 21, 2019

Malleovic said:
Does this bill require you to register long guns you already own?

In its current form no. It requires all new purchases to be registered (well, all those done through an FFL. C&R to C&R, just like FFL to FFL doesn't appear to require registration. And of course Criminals purchasing guns illegal don't need to register per Haynes vs US. Only non-criminals can be required to register guns. I mean, seriously, WHAT. THE. F. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United_States . No I wouldn't expect criminals to comply, but the fact that they literally can't be charged with a crime for failing to register, but an otherwise law abiding citizen CAN be charged is beyond the pale)

However, if you are an out of state resident and establish residency in Maryland, as per handguns, all of your long guns must be registered. I think it is a $10 or $20 fee (for all guns, not per gun). Then you have to provide a description, make and model, serial number, your DL# or SONDEX#, name, address, date of birth, hair and eye color, ethnicity, weight, height, a sperm or egg sample, 4 written letters of recommendation and please no stool samples.

I may have been slightly exaggerating on the last 3. However, all the rest is required.

smkranz · Feb 21, 2019

Not_an_outlaw said:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/mdreps/posts/?ref=page_internal

Looks like the facebook page is no longer addressing the new bills. Am I missing something here?

Looks to me like they’re still there. Scroll down to 2.19 and 2.18.

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Malleovic · Feb 21, 2019

lazarus said:
In its current form no. It requires all new purchases to be registered (well, all those done through an FFL. C&R to C&R, just like FFL to FFL doesn't appear to require registration. And of course Criminals purchasing guns illegal don't need to register per Haynes vs US. Only non-criminals can be required to register guns. I mean, seriously, WHAT. THE. F. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United_States . No I wouldn't expect criminals to comply, but the fact that they literally can't be charged with a crime for failing to register, but an otherwise law abiding citizen CAN be charged is beyond the pale)

However, if you are an out of state resident and establish residency in Maryland, as per handguns, all of your long guns must be registered. I think it is a $10 or $20 fee (for all guns, not per gun). Then you have to provide a description, make and model, serial number, your DL# or SONDEX#, name, address, date of birth, hair and eye color, ethnicity, weight, height, a sperm or egg sample, 4 written letters of recommendation and please no stool samples.

I may have been slightly exaggerating on the last 3. However, all the rest is required.

Thanks!

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