KP Shooter
Le Flâneur
Hope this isn’t a duplicate:
Looking for more info, just saw this video,
https://youtu.be/u87NIIvofjU
Looking for more info, just saw this video,
https://youtu.be/u87NIIvofjU
ATF to declare that AR Pistols are AOW
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85MikeTPI
Ultimate Member
It was posted in https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=249417
My reply in that other thread:
The video Smokey posted is about the ATF possibly changing AR/AK style pistols to be AOWs.
Here is the law firm's letter referenced in the video and referenced by Military Arms Channel also referenced in the above video.
https://comms.wiley.law/8/3583/octo...ports-and-may-require-nfa-registration(2).asp
Maybe President Trump (never gets old) is waiting for the election to be over, but I really hope he reigns in the ATF. They just make things up as they go.
Skipjacks
Ultimate Member
Something doesn't smell right here
This reminds me of all the hoax messages going around in March about how martial law was about to be declared
This reminds me of all the hoax messages going around in March about how martial law was about to be declared
This is a continuation of the ATF attack on the Q Honey Badger with SB Tactical brace.
https://www.tactical-life.com/news/atf-rules-q-honey-badger-pistol-sbr/
The whole pistol AR thing is at risk.
https://www.tactical-life.com/news/atf-rules-q-honey-badger-pistol-sbr/
The whole pistol AR thing is at risk.
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smokey
2A TEACHER
- Jan 31, 2008
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[Kev308];6083141 said:
I guess that's one way to go forward with this...
I suppose not a bad time to get a few form 1’s on the books.
If these changes occur I’d speculate a form 1 will become the new form 4 in terms of average turnaround time.
If these changes occur I’d speculate a form 1 will become the new form 4 in terms of average turnaround time.
KP Shooter
Le Flâneur
Is that going to include pistol calibers or just rifle calibers?
1time
Ultimate Member
They can screw with imports but an aow is clearly defined in law. I would think they have an easier time calling the brace a stock and saying they are sbrs.
Is it defined in the law, as in something passed by Congress, or is it defined in regulations? Regulations they can re-write at their leisure.
Muleskinner
Ultimate Member
Good God...Seeing people here scrambling to comply is sickening. Millions of these pistols are in the hands of gun owners..
Yet again being "law abiding" is more important than your freedom...
The sentiment that ex post facto laws are against natural right is so strong in the United States, that few, if any, of the State constitutions have failed to proscribe them. The federal constitution indeed interdicts them in criminal cases only; but they are equally unjust in civil as in criminal cases, and the omission of a caution which would have been right, does not justify the doing what is wrong. Nor ought it to be presumed that the legislature meant to use a phrase in an unjustifiable sense, if by rules of construction it can be ever strained to what is just.
— Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Isaac McPherson, August 13, 1813
Yet again being "law abiding" is more important than your freedom...
The sentiment that ex post facto laws are against natural right is so strong in the United States, that few, if any, of the State constitutions have failed to proscribe them. The federal constitution indeed interdicts them in criminal cases only; but they are equally unjust in civil as in criminal cases, and the omission of a caution which would have been right, does not justify the doing what is wrong. Nor ought it to be presumed that the legislature meant to use a phrase in an unjustifiable sense, if by rules of construction it can be ever strained to what is just.
— Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Isaac McPherson, August 13, 1813
What is your proposal? Proceed as if the government can't lock you up for violating the law? There may be a huge difference between what you choose to take in public and what you do privately.....don't mistake public compliance with total acquiescence.
Muleskinner
Ultimate Member
How about grow a set and fight for your rights. What this tells me is if Biden win and the Senate flips and the congress passes a law requiring that we turn in ALL semi autos many of you will be fighting to see who is first in line...It sickens me.
Once again it's going to take a small percentage of the population to win back the rights for all those who were too cowardly to fight...It happened in the 18th century and looks like it could happen again in the 21st. Frankly if you're not willing and ready to take the fight to a tyrannical government you have zero business owning any firearms.
MightyWarMonger
0351 Semper Fi
then you sir stand on point obtain an ar or ak style pistol if you don't own one then get arrested for non compliance and fight it in court I'll wait sorry I have kids to take care of
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Way too early to panic on this. Keep your powder dry gents. I predict that the ATF is going to get its peepee slapped again.
Post a picture of your illegal SBR/MG or shut the **** up, please.
alucard0822
For great Justice
Plenty of us have no plans to turn anything in, might even be willing to fight about it, but IMO it's just talking S#!t unless we are willing to fund law suits, help elect preferable candidates, and exhaust every peaceful and legal means before hand. The type of people that don't bother voting or supporting gun rights groups might have a "Molon Labe" bumper sticker, but would be the first to hand them over, and turn in their gun owning friends after an ATF agent knocks on their door.
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