THIS IS FAR FROM OVER

Patrick · Mar 13, 2013

THIS IS FAR FROM OVER.

Time to clear up some confusion. The House says they are going to amend SB281. Not only does the House need to vote, but the Senate will then need to vote on the revised SB281 when the House is done.

So both houses still need to vote on this. The first Senate vote was not a "done", but more like a draft.

Do not hesitate to let your Senators know how they should vote in the do-over. They are getting a mulligan shot, and they need to do it right.

bitterkenny · Mar 13, 2013

Oh hell yeah! Thanks for your timely heads up. I was feeling rather depressed today.

nedsurf · Mar 13, 2013

Nods. I'm still with you in the fight.

dwsjr · Mar 13, 2013

Thanks Pat. Will start another round of letters.

Multifaceted · Mar 13, 2013

Thank you for the update, Patrick.

buzzsaw · Mar 13, 2013

Thanks for the heads up Pat. Is this 100% confirmed that HB 294 is going to the wayside / trash and they're going to work through 281 instead? Would hate to see BOTH bills being forwarded in parallel.

Sportstud4891 · Mar 13, 2013

Still hanging strong! Does anybody have an update so I can tell family/friends what is going on? By this I mean when is the house planning on discussing this and what sort of amendments are we looking at?

buzzsaw · Mar 13, 2013

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frmSchedules.aspx?pid=schedpage&id=0&stab=01&tab=subject2

that is the site that lists daily schedules for the GA to hear bills.

edit - i would recommend bookmarking that and checking back each morning if you want to know. i'm going to try to take my own advice here.

04RWon · Mar 13, 2013

So basically, they will revise it to how they like, pass it, then MD's screwed anyway? To me revising means "i like this and will support it with these changes".

Patrick · Mar 13, 2013

buzzsaw said:
Thanks for the heads up Pat. Is this 100% confirmed that HB 294 is going to the wayside / trash and they're going to work through 281 instead? Would hate to see BOTH bills being forwarded in parallel.

Latest is that we are working from SB281. That was as of last night. Anything can happen these days, so keep your eyes open.
One reason they would want to move on SB281 is because it is not subject to the crossover date - the date that a bill must leave one chamber to guarantee being heard in the other. If they went with HB294 and didn't get it done on time, then they'd have to go through the Rules Committee in the Senate. Usually a formality if the bosses want it done, but the head of that committee in the Senate stood with us in the filibuster. That just adds more drama.

erwos · Mar 13, 2013

This is some of the better news I've heard today. If I had a couple of suggested amendments, who would I talk to about that? My delegates are not exactly 2A friendly.

MikeTF · Mar 13, 2013

So what is the plan?

rob-cubed · Mar 13, 2013

She hasn't sung yet.

04RWon · Mar 13, 2013

Can we listen to the discussion for amendments?

Hopalong · Mar 13, 2013

MikeTF said:
So what is the plan?

Take off and nuke the site from orbit?

Wait, wrong plan.

I'd say the plan is to keep the pressure on. Let the Senate and House know that we're watching and keeping notes for 2014.

rj1974 · Mar 13, 2013

Patrick , Thank you for the non-defeatist thread . This fight is not over and the " I'm done , I'm moving , It's over" crowds need to be reminded of such .

And everyone remember to keep a running tab of people we need to vote out next year :thumbsup:

And don't forget about all this lil spin off bills .

MotoJ · Mar 13, 2013

rob-cubed said:
She hasn't sung yet.

Be thankful she doesn't get to sing in the state opera.
Remember she wants to ban "high capacity ammunition", as she stated in an email response!

EL1227 · Mar 13, 2013

Posted to MSI's 2A Resource Room on Facebook

Patrick said:
THIS IS FAR FROM OVER.

Time to clear up some confusion. The House says they are going to amend SB281. Not only does the House need to vote, but the Senate will then need to vote on the revised SB281 when the House is done.

So both houses still need to vote on this. The first Senate vote was not a "done", but more like a draft.

Do not hesitate to let your Senators know how they should vote in the do-over. They are getting a mulligan shot, and they need to do it right.

This is far from over.

:thumbsup:

Patrick · Mar 13, 2013

Sportstud4891 said:
Still hanging strong! Does anybody have an update so I can tell family/friends what is going on? By this I mean when is the house planning on discussing this and what sort of amendments are we looking at?

Lots of amendments. Some are getting traction. Nobody likes this thing.

As for progress, I'd say we're just under the 50% marker for this. The "short" path would have required two committee votes and two floor votes - one each for each chamber.

The new path would require that, plus another floor vote in the Senate - assuming they don't go through committee again. If a conference report is called for (possible but not required) then we're looking at another two floors votes. Oh, and this assumes they combine House Judiciary with House Heatlh and Gov't Operations into one special committee vote. If not, then add a vote in HGO to the pile.

So the current "shortest path" is two committees (one each House and Senate) plus three floor votes (two Senate, one House). So far we got only one committee and one floor done. That leaves House combined committee; House floor and then Senate floor -at a minimum.

So this bill needs at least one more committee vote and two more floor votes to pass. Nowhere. Near. Done.

Keep in mind that the session ends on April 8th, come hell or high water.

ThawMyTongue · Mar 13, 2013

Good news! Will keep up the pressure here!

Are there any "poison pill" amendments which have a chance?

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