IMBLITZVT
Ultimate Member
This is post I wrote a while ago about my intro into FA. For those that think its to much money, think about how many guns you have that are a few hundred each. Sell a few and you get into FA. Now that I am in, I have a hard time shooting my 9mm pistol as it seems like a waste of 9mm that could go in my MG. I have a fair amount of guns in my collection but I am shooting my FA more than the rest combined. You do not give us any of your rights to own FA. No ATF visits or any of that crap you hear. No license either. Its really not bad at all. You need to find a gun for sale, get fingerprinted and get passport photos... not much more and just like a suppressor or SBR...etc. We can help you down the road if you are interested. Anyway here is the post:
Well guys, I thought some of you might be interested to hear my jump into full auto, on a budget. I had a baby coming at the time and could not afford anything more then about $4k. As you know this pretty much rules out any rifle cal guns but there are a few sub guns in this area. Since I could not afford to feed anything but a sub gun and because I could shoot this at an indoor range if needed, this was the way to go for me.
Now there are a few cheaper sub guns; Macs, Stens, Reisings and maybe a few others. Uzis were out of my price range at $6.5K or higher. Same with best sub gun on the face of the earth (according to some gun snobs :p) the Sterling.
So this left me with a select few. Now my ideal gun would be a MP5 but since that was way out of my price range... but it gives you some idea of what I was looking for. I did not want a historic piece. I wanted something I could shoot the sh!t out of and not feel one bit bad about it. I also would like the option of the EoTech or some other kind of modern sight. So this pretty much ruled them all out in their stock version. So to keep it cheap I started looking at Macs, M10s (.45acp) and M11s (9mm). 9mm is cheaper so the M11 beat the M10. BUT the M11 is really just a little bullet hose and really not that much fun. I find myself much to worried about controlling the gun and not on enjoying shooting it. Plus I will be shooting on a 50 yard range most of the time and it would be nice to hit something.
Then I found my answer. The Max 11 upgrade to the M11. Its a Slow fire upper that fits right on the stock M11 lower (the NFA part) without mods. Its got different bolts to allow you to change the cycle rate, starting at 600 rpm (stock), 750rpm and 900rpm...etc. It also has stock M16 sights (or a flat top if you like) with an optics rail between them. It gives you a place to grip the front of the gun, which the M11 does not. That along with several of the other upgrades made it look real nice. So I dug further. Lage Manufactuing who produces it has a great reputation (which I can now back up) and his products work pretty much 100% or he will fix them so they will! Don't take my word for it, check out Uzitalk.com and their Mac forum. Lage is loved by all that have his products.
So back to Money. A M11 sells for about $2.5-3k. I got mine for $2.5k with a suppressor but that was a hell of a good deal. The stock Max 11 upper goes for $759.00 making the package (not including Taxes) with an upgraded stock under $4k. For me I did a few more upgrades (stock, Grips, Safety parts, EOtech, extra bolt and front grip etc.) and think I have about $4.5k into the gun with everything you see.
I have had the gun all together for a while now and I love it! It is not Uzi or MP5 but for the money, its damn close enough! I think the modern features of the gun also really add to value and help make it easily a better choice then the Stens or Reisings. I may even take it over an Uzi if you consider the optics a must have. Accuracy is good and I shoot the gun at 50 yards keep pretty much all the rounds in the human silhouette target. Function is great and it feeds well (actually my M11 feedramp, thats in the lower, was bent a little low but after fixing that I don't think I have had a single jam from Winchester white box 115gr 9mm). Semi wads do give my gun a bit of trouble but still do well. Finnish and craftsmenship I would give an A+. It looks like it came that way!
So anyway, if you are in the market but got to do it cheap... keep it in mind!
Make sure to check you tube for Videos on "max 11" and Lage has some on his page at: http://www.max-11.com/
P.S. I make no money from this, and have have nothing to do with Lage manufacturing. Just thought you guys might be interested.
Well guys, I thought some of you might be interested to hear my jump into full auto, on a budget. I had a baby coming at the time and could not afford anything more then about $4k. As you know this pretty much rules out any rifle cal guns but there are a few sub guns in this area. Since I could not afford to feed anything but a sub gun and because I could shoot this at an indoor range if needed, this was the way to go for me.
Now there are a few cheaper sub guns; Macs, Stens, Reisings and maybe a few others. Uzis were out of my price range at $6.5K or higher. Same with best sub gun on the face of the earth (according to some gun snobs :p) the Sterling.
So this left me with a select few. Now my ideal gun would be a MP5 but since that was way out of my price range... but it gives you some idea of what I was looking for. I did not want a historic piece. I wanted something I could shoot the sh!t out of and not feel one bit bad about it. I also would like the option of the EoTech or some other kind of modern sight. So this pretty much ruled them all out in their stock version. So to keep it cheap I started looking at Macs, M10s (.45acp) and M11s (9mm). 9mm is cheaper so the M11 beat the M10. BUT the M11 is really just a little bullet hose and really not that much fun. I find myself much to worried about controlling the gun and not on enjoying shooting it. Plus I will be shooting on a 50 yard range most of the time and it would be nice to hit something.
Then I found my answer. The Max 11 upgrade to the M11. Its a Slow fire upper that fits right on the stock M11 lower (the NFA part) without mods. Its got different bolts to allow you to change the cycle rate, starting at 600 rpm (stock), 750rpm and 900rpm...etc. It also has stock M16 sights (or a flat top if you like) with an optics rail between them. It gives you a place to grip the front of the gun, which the M11 does not. That along with several of the other upgrades made it look real nice. So I dug further. Lage Manufactuing who produces it has a great reputation (which I can now back up) and his products work pretty much 100% or he will fix them so they will! Don't take my word for it, check out Uzitalk.com and their Mac forum. Lage is loved by all that have his products.
So back to Money. A M11 sells for about $2.5-3k. I got mine for $2.5k with a suppressor but that was a hell of a good deal. The stock Max 11 upper goes for $759.00 making the package (not including Taxes) with an upgraded stock under $4k. For me I did a few more upgrades (stock, Grips, Safety parts, EOtech, extra bolt and front grip etc.) and think I have about $4.5k into the gun with everything you see.
I have had the gun all together for a while now and I love it! It is not Uzi or MP5 but for the money, its damn close enough! I think the modern features of the gun also really add to value and help make it easily a better choice then the Stens or Reisings. I may even take it over an Uzi if you consider the optics a must have. Accuracy is good and I shoot the gun at 50 yards keep pretty much all the rounds in the human silhouette target. Function is great and it feeds well (actually my M11 feedramp, thats in the lower, was bent a little low but after fixing that I don't think I have had a single jam from Winchester white box 115gr 9mm). Semi wads do give my gun a bit of trouble but still do well. Finnish and craftsmenship I would give an A+. It looks like it came that way!
So anyway, if you are in the market but got to do it cheap... keep it in mind!
Make sure to check you tube for Videos on "max 11" and Lage has some on his page at: http://www.max-11.com/
P.S. I make no money from this, and have have nothing to do with Lage manufacturing. Just thought you guys might be interested.
