Question regarding 7-day waiting period

WillyD · Apr 21, 2014

Paperwork infinite loop

March 7 Submitted Application for HQL
March 19 HQL Approved
March 27 HQL Card received
March 29 revolver ordered from FFL (not in stock)
April 1 Revolver arrived at FFL (assumed), paperwork transmitted to MSP
April 21 Paperwork STILL not returned to FFL :mad54:

I missed two competitions in which I wanted to participate (April 13 and 19). What are my options here? FFL won't release until they get the ND paperwork. If I cancel the order and get a refund, who knows how long I'll have to wait.

The thing that torques me the most is that it is taking longer for the ND than it did for my HQL!

protegeV · Apr 21, 2014

What in the F? 3 weeks? :crazy:

My dealer got the ND back in 4 days...

Find a different dealer? :shrug:

Yellowhand · Apr 21, 2014

2012 I purchased a Beretta M9 and was told I couldn't pick up for 14 days at Shore Sportsman. I got it at 14 days. Bought a Mini-14 January 2013 at WM; didn't get it for 30 days. Bought a LC9 in July 2013 didn't get to pick up until last week September. Wait, wait, wait. They can't even follow their own laws.

bbaick · Apr 21, 2014

I purchased a handgun from Atlantic Guns in Rockville on April 10th. I'm still waiting too.

protegeV · Apr 21, 2014

Yellowhand said:
2012 I purchased a Beretta M9 and was told I couldn't pick up for 14 days at Shore Sportsman. I got it at 14 days. Bought a Mini-14 January 2013 at WM; didn't get it for 30 days. Bought a LC9 in July 2013 didn't get to pick up until last week September. Wait, wait, wait. They can't even follow their own laws.

wait, you had to wait a month for a RIFLE? :crazy:

WillyD · Apr 21, 2014

protegeV said:
What in the F? 3 weeks? My dealer got the ND back in 4 days...

Find a different dealer?

I think the answer is to find a different state. I didn't ask the FFL what their 7-day policy was - that's on me. Three weeks and counting for turnaround by the state - that's on Owe-Malley.

Yellowhand · Apr 21, 2014

Yup! NICS held me up for some reason...I have no criminal record, no doctors record. All i got by way of explanation was that NICS was backed up as well as MSP.

protegeV · Apr 21, 2014

Yellowhand said:
Yup! NICS held me up for some reason...I have no criminal record, no doctors record. All i got by way of explanation was that NICS was backed up as well as MSP.

yeah, but by federal law they HAVE TO release after 3 days without a NICS repsonse.

kalister1 · Apr 21, 2014

Lesson Learned: Ask before you buy!
If you don't like the answer, Walk OUT!
Don't forget to tell them why you are walking out!

kalister1 · Apr 21, 2014

protegeV said:
yeah, but by federal law they HAVE TO release after 3 days without a NICS response.

No, not ever!
Read the law again.
No where in the law does it a dealer MUST transfer your property, it says they MAY complete the transaction. It says what MUST happen AFTER the transfer is made.

protegeV · Apr 21, 2014

kalister1 said:
No, not ever!
Read the law again.
No where in the law does it a dealer MUST transfer your property, it says they MAY complete the transaction. It says what MUST happen AFTER the transfer is made.

ok, maybe they dont HAVE to, but Id be demanding my money back lickety split on the 4th day :mad54:

kalister1 · Apr 21, 2014

Most people agree with you.
BUT, Check the return policy BEFORE you sign on the dotted line.
Some dealers have it posted, and, the return fee is HIGH!

Consumer Beware!

Kevin1106 · Apr 21, 2014

Finally received my gun today!
Received HQL 4/9
Purchased gun 4/10
Took my gun home 4/21

Not to bad I guess....

Kevin1106 · Apr 21, 2014

WillyD said:
March 7 Submitted Application for HQL
March 19 HQL Approved
March 27 HQL Card received
March 29 revolver ordered from FFL (not in stock)
April 1 Revolver arrived at FFL (assumed), paperwork transmitted to MSP
April 21 Paperwork STILL not returned to FFL

I missed two competitions in which I wanted to participate (April 13 and 19). What are my options here? FFL won't release until they get the ND paperwork. If I cancel the order and get a refund, who knows how long I'll have to wait.

The thing that torques me the most is that it is taking longer for the ND than it did for my HQL!

Your in the same boat I was in... You really only have 2 option... Wait it out, or ask for a refund... Since it's been 3 weeks already, I'd wait it out a little longer... Ask the FFL to call and ask for a update... GL!

Norton · Apr 22, 2014

Personal insults and name calling removed. Infractions issued.

Carry on.

Biggfoot44 · Apr 22, 2014

I guess those speedy ND's didn't last for long after all.

For the benefit of our 2014 members who had no experience with 2013 purchases .

Ask before you buy :

1. Release Policy

2. Return / Restocking/ Cancled Sale policies ( ie FEEs )

WillyD · Apr 26, 2014

April 26, and still no word from the FFL. Is there someone I can call at MDSP to check on the status?

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jlowe23 · Apr 29, 2014

One thing I did not see mentioned here was the possibility of returned paperwork. Your FFL can submit the paperwork on the day you purchase (say Friday) and then 6 days later he receives the application back from MSP due to it being incorrectly filled out or faxed in the wrong order or any other of a hundred little things the MSP may pick out.

Now the FFL has to correct the application and resubmit it. At this point the 7 day waiting period starts over. This process could repeat it self several times though not likely.

This could possible explain some of the longer wait times.

protegeV · Apr 29, 2014

Sounds like he was in contact with the FFL repeatedly to ask for updates. You'd think they would have told him if paperwork was returned and there was a legitimate reason for the delay.

WillyD · May 2, 2014

Jlowe23 was right. Multiple paperwork snafus. I pick up the Single 10 on Wednesday.

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