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Old June 30th, 2020, 05:29 PM #1
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LasVegas bullet maker go to jail

The guy who was making ammo at home and selling it on the net gets sentenced to 13 months. The charge was making ammo without a license.

https://www.wbal.com/article/466765/...mmunition-case
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That is some suck. Shall not be infringed.
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An 06 FFL is required to make ammo, they're not even that hard to get, just a little more effort than an 03 C&R since you're not making retail firearms sales IIRC.
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An 06 FFL is required to make ammo, they're not even that hard to get, just a little more effort than an 03 C&R since you're not making retail firearms sales IIRC.
You cannot get a 06 if you are a convicted felon like this guy. He knew the rules and he broke them.
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The point is, normally this would result in a cease and desist order, not 13 months in jail. Hell, they don't even know if any bullets made by the guy were used by the sniper. They found a box with his name and address and fingerprints on bullets. He must have had a jerk for a lawyer who convinced him to accept the sentence.

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You cannot get a 06 if you are a convicted felon like this guy. He knew the rules and he broke them.
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You cannot get a 06 if you are a convicted felon like this guy. He knew the rules and he broke them.
He was not a convicted felon until this happened. Not everyone knows when you need and FFL and when you don't. It's no different than people who sell cooked food at events. When noticed by and officer or county inspector, they are told to stop and get a business license.
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You cannot get a 06 if you are a convicted felon like this guy. He knew the rules and he broke them.

I read the article as, he can no longer possess ammunition or firearms because he is NOW a felon. As in, after pleaing to a BS situation.
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He was not a convicted felon until this happened. Not everyone knows when you need and FFL and when you don't. It's no different than people who sell cooked food at events. When noticed by and officer or county inspector, they are told to stop and get a business license.
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I read the article as, he can no longer possess ammunition or firearms because he is NOW a felon. As in, after pleaing to a BS situation.
You are correct. My reading comprehension was wrong.
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An 06 FFL is required to make ammo, they're not even that hard to get, just a little more effort than an 03 C&R since you're not making retail firearms sales IIRC.
No, an FFL-06 is required if you are IN THE BUSINESS of making ammo. Last I checked, you could still make some rounds for a friend so long as you aren't exchanging money for it. You can absolutely make ammo for yourself. But the guy was churning out ammo and selling it at gun shows. Sounds like a business to me.

Since no background check is required and only logs are required for AP ammo last I checked, so long as you aren't making AP (yes, I realize this guy was making AP) I don't see harm or foul in being a business without an FFL. No I am not advocating breaking the law, I just don't think that particular law makes sense.
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