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  • Stoveman

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    Have any of these come before the OAH yet? Outcomes?



    I know of at least 10 hearings before the OAH so far, possibly more. Saw in either the Daily Record or Maryland Matters the other day that the MSP have appealed at least 22 cases.

    As Welder said, we won't know anything for probably a short while yet.
     

    Schipperke

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    The first cases were recently being heard. Quite a coincidence this tweet on February 10th.

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    Straightshooter

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    Any chance you'd give some insight as to how these hearings are conducted compared to the HPRB hearings? More formal? Allowing you adequate chance to provide your side? Or does it appear to be a chopping block session?

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    Allen65

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    The first cases were recently being heard. Quite a coincidence this tweet on February 10th.

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    Frosh needs to put up or shut up on that serious accusation. If HPRB is violating the law, how are they doing it? By exercising their lawful authority to overrule decisions made by MSPLD? That doesn't fit under any definition of "breaking the law" that I'm aware of.
     

    welder516

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    Any chance you'd give some insight as to how these hearings are conducted compared to the HPRB hearings? More formal? Allowing you adequate chance to provide your side? Or does it appear to be a chopping block session?

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    I would be happy to answer questions , hard to do here but I will try .

    The rooms are as big as a closet , no room for a posse . Friendly less people . The same MSP troopers that are at HPRB are at the hearings .

    Like a less formal court hearing my hearing lasted 1 hr. 45 mins. approx. lots of information and legal jargon . Business permits must have an attorney . That is the Cliff note version .
     

    Straightshooter

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    I would be happy to answer questions , hard to do here but I will try .



    The rooms are as big as a closet , no room for a posse . Friendly less people . The same MSP troopers that are at HPRB are at the hearings .



    Like a less formal court hearing my hearing lasted 1 hr. 45 mins. approx. lots of information and legal jargon . Business permits must have an attorney . That is the Cliff note version .
    Thanks

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    PJDiesel

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    Interesting that you MUST have representation. That's cute, the State can force expenses on you.
     

    welder516

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    Interesting that you MUST have representation. That's cute, the State can force expenses on you.

    I would have been lost there without my very capable attorney , take it from me this is for someone that has law knowledge . And that is not me .

    I try to stay in my lane .

    On one of the two sheets they sent it was stated on the paper businesses must have representation/lawyer
     

    PJDiesel

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    I'm not saying its not the best decision, but, what would happen if the applicant's business couldn't afford to represent itself? Do they offer financial aid?
     

    Schipperke

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    Interesting that you MUST have representation. That's cute, the State can force expenses on you.

    If you are sole proprietor, Single member LLC or 100% shareholder in a closed corporation, I can't see how how they can stop you from going pro se. It's ridiculous in any circumstance as shareholders or partners are at risk how?
     

    welder516

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    With all due respect to my colleague, I'm not sure that is the case.

    Well it's on the paperwork ;):D I don't remember the exact wordage but it says something as close to that as possible . I was surprised as well .That's right it said something about Corporation . We are INC.

    Not Sole or LLC

    Second Business is LLC which has not made it on permit
     

    welder516

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    And to be clear nobody forces you to do anything , you decide and their ******** cost you money much like other Government BS cost you money . When our state needs more money for free programs they then think of new stuff so we can pay for the free stuff .
     

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