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Old December 6th, 2019, 11:32 PM #51
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Like many of us, I've spent a bunch of money over the years on training (plus the fees for the permits) to get permits in VA, FL, DC and NH (that was a waste of time). I also was one of the 365 who had their hopes raised after Judge Benson Everett Legg made his ruling, only to have them dashed within a short time afterwards. While I agree in principle that we shouldn't have to pay for an enumerated right, the reality is that we do, and anybody with a permit has done so. The only way to avoid the cost is to live in a constitutional carry state, and I don't.

So yes, I would pay a significant amount of money to get an unrestricted permit in MD. I know I'll get roasted for this, but if I could be guaranteed a five year unrestricted permit (no strings attached, like it being related to employment), I'd write a check for $500 today. Maybe more.
This is along the lines of my thoughts that I never got around to posting. It sucks to have to pay for a right...but that may be the only way I could exercise it. I certainly cannot now
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Old December 6th, 2019, 11:36 PM #52
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The willingness to pay is moot. Why do I have to pay anything to exercise an enumerated right let alone any right?
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Old December 8th, 2019, 08:59 PM #53
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After retiring I maintained 9 permits as we traveled throughout this great country. Age now dictates a more austere life style. Of the nine, I dropped Maine (a constitutional carry state) and Connecticut, a state in which I never carried (the permit was the result of a class action suit I was involved in that brought CCW to the State). As the remaining ones come up for renewal, I will continue to cull them. The point is I’ve paid bookoo bucks over the years to make sure my family and I were as safe as possible. So yes, I will pay for those permits I need. In an imperfect world, it’s just plain wise to do so.
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Old December 8th, 2019, 09:08 PM #54
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Old December 11th, 2019, 12:16 PM #55
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Just wondering how much y’all would be willing to pay for a CCL in Maryland.

Granted, I personally believe that having to get a dang license to adequately protect oneself in the first place is a violation of individual liberties, but here we are so it’s at least worth discussing.

If it were presented to the state in such a way like the casinos... ie “charge X amount for each license, and the full amount goes to state education funding,” (or choose your pick for the revenue destination) ... could that be a way to negotiate?

There’s already people willing to pay the ATF for SBR and suppression, myself included. Why not this too? Has this been suggested or tried before?
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The vast majority of the "cost" of the W&C license is non-monetary:
* need for G&S
* 16 hour class (whats 16 hours of your time worth?)
* references
* interview

The 16 hour class alone costs $320 in hours lost, assuming the median income in maryland ($40,000 / 2000 hours). Plus, you have to pay the instructor to instruct you. I dont know about you but my weekend time is doubly or triple valuable than regular work time because family, friends, holidays, etc.

I think people people would pay $100, $150, or whatever, if the non-monetary costs were eliminated, like G&S, and the training was made a more ordinary 4 hours like everywhere else in America. I am not suggesting that it should be $150. I am merely saying that the non-monetary hurdles are the real cost for most people.
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I currently hold a VA and DC ccw, and to get those you have to have a clean record, I also get finger printed and a FBI criminal backround check every year, to work where I work, if I where to get a DWI or some other charge, I could lose my job, and or both of my ccw's. Isn't being a law abiding citizen, payment enough? Not in nazi maryland!!!������
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...Compromise is when both sides are equally unhappy.

...I’m just saying offer something of mutual benefit.
How about the chance to be re-elected next time around?

We've been "compromised" into one of the most repressive anti-gun law states in the U.S. Personally, I'm done with compromise. We offer nothing to these corrupt politicians but the chance of continuing public employment. IF they behave. I believe the Colonial Tea Tax Stamp was only one penny...
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Thus, the only inquiry that this Court should conduct is to determine whether the firearms prohibited by the Act are protected by the Second Amendment. Because they are, the Act is simply unconstitutional.
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