Bigger bullets are deadlier

joppaj · Apr 1, 2019

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/03/27/upshot/deadly-bullets-guns.html

I'm putting this here because the story only discusses handgun rounds. It also erroneously says "bigger" bullets while calling a 9mm a medium and a .357 magnum a large.

danb · Apr 1, 2019

I like my bullets extra large with a side of flash.

rbird7282 · Apr 1, 2019

There are so many things wrong with that article I don't even know where to begin. Just another hit piece from the NY Times

Trigger Time · Apr 1, 2019

Well that should put an end to the 9 vs 45 argument then.

Batt816 · Apr 1, 2019

.45 a new modern large caliber round. :lol2:

Doctor_M · Apr 1, 2019

A .41 short rf is a pretty big bullet... but only around 52 ft-lbs of muzzle energy... clearly bullet size isn't everything.

TheOriginalMexicanBob · Apr 1, 2019

Consider the source...the NYT lost all credibility about anything a long time ago. The antis will grab onto it though and try banning certain calibers...gun control by any means and with any excuse.

Alan3413 · Apr 1, 2019

They'll sh*t bricks when they hear of the 10mm.

ETA: nope, .45 still wins.

Ha! Take that unbelievers.

Jimbob2.0 · Apr 1, 2019

The dreaded .455 Eley man stopper...…….according to the NYT Glock will be making a compact with a carbon barrel that cant be detected by metal detectors in this horrendous round.

Alan3413 · Apr 1, 2019

So. By their logic, an AR pistol is no more dangerous than Grandpa's .22 Iver Johnson.

hobiecat590 · Apr 1, 2019

rbird7282 said:
There are so many things wrong with that article I don't even know where to begin. Just another hit piece from the NY Times

Yup. These "experts" would probably prefer to NOT to be shot w/ a "large 45" acp round averaging about 300 ft lbs instead of a "medium" Buff Bore TAC XP 9mm +P+ 500 ft lbs of energy. Either one would ruin your day but FFS.

1841DNG · Apr 1, 2019

Not going to read this but presumably they are going to give up on ARs and start trying to ban old 45-70 Government lever guns.

f1racecar · Apr 1, 2019

How about the .500.

myright · Apr 1, 2019

in other news water is wet.

1841DNG · Apr 1, 2019

f1racecar said:
How about the .500.

No one needs one of these deadly weapons of war:

https://www.ima-usa.com/collections...tical-breech-saddle-ring-carbine-serial-74899

(in all seriousness I would like to have that......)

Zorros · Apr 1, 2019

Waiting for the bill to be introduced banning all but .22 LR and less.

Magnumite · Apr 1, 2019

You only need look at the who's who list of contributors. Idiocy at its finest.

Huckleberry · Apr 1, 2019

“My friend Widley’s coming”

.475 Widley Magnum

I guarantee that the NYT never saw anything like dat before

fidelity · Apr 1, 2019

joppaj said:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/03/27/upshot/deadly-bullets-guns.html

I'm putting this here because the story only discusses handgun rounds. It also erroneously says "bigger" bullets while calling a 9mm a medium and a .357 magnum a large.

Just one of the moronic assertions from the article ...

“In general, the criminals who are using guns in crime do want the higher-caliber, more lethal weapons, and want the newest and sexiest,” said Roseanna Ander, the founding executive director of the Crime Lab at the University of Chicago. “But there is a big markup, and they sometimes can’t get them.”

Sounds like this is out of her derriere. For the discerning criminal with options, do they want carry around a S&W Model 500 revolver or a lighter and more concealable Glock 19 with loads of capacity? Question answers itself.

As per the "other" category in the table that had the highest lethality (83% ... probably includes 44 Mag), it also was very low in terms of usage. Kind of contrary to the assertion in the quoted text. Maybe there was actually a correlation with firearms that are generally available (and thus, the high representation of 9mm) vs a quest to get the biggest projectile out there.

I guess the FN FiveSeven with those tiny 30 grain 5.7x28 rounds must be of reduced lethality too.

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smokey · Apr 1, 2019

....ummmm.....

Bigger bullets are deadlier

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