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Old August 12th, 2018, 06:38 PM #1
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86 Grain .357 Magnum

Saw this today at a shop and was intrigued. An 86 grain bullet, 1650 fps for .357 Magnum.

I generally use 125, 158, and I have loaded some 180 grain .357 Magnum, but this stuff might be fun. The down side is, it was about 23 bucks a box for 20 rounds. I don't want to spend a dollar and change each time I pull the trigger.

Anyone have any experience with this stuff?





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I've heard about that new bullet but know no one who has actual range time with it. Anybody?
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FMJ? Unless it's designed to break apart on impact somehow, it'd just make a 'prox 9mm hole through the target.
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No range time. I am familiar with the projectile. The theory is interesting. Appears devastating in gelatin. Ideally would need to see it in tissue.
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I miss the tnoutdoors9 channel on YT. This ammo would be right up his alley. Guessing this is an over penetrator based on groove channels in the bullet. Wonder what the muzzle velocity for this round would be out of a rifle.

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FMJ? Unless it's designed to break apart on impact somehow, it'd just make a 'prox 9mm hole through the target.
Nope, according to the ARX website it is an injection molded copper/polymer compound (no lead). Seems you can get bullets for reloading also w/ data on the company website.

Interesting ammo tho'.
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I remember the first and only time I shot some 110 grain .357 magnum loads out of my 4" bbl. S&W 686-1. They turned the thing into a fire-breathing dragon. Never again.
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A great round is or was the 110 grain .38 Special +P+ which was known as the "Treasury Load"...it was law enforcement only and standard issue for Secret Service and other Treasury agents before transitioning to sell-loading pistols. Once it was discontinued Winchester (or maybe it was distributors) sold what was surplus on the open market. I had several cases of it but am down to only a couple of boxes now. My Python snubby absolutely loves the stuff.
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I have shot this stuff in .38spl and 9mm. It is very accurate, reliable, mild to shoot, and light to carry. It was featured in a recent article in American Rifleman. Sort of the best of both worlds with fmj feeding characteristics and hp wounding capabilities. I would like to see more real world performance data, but tests have been very positive. It seems slow to catch on since it's quite a departure from convention. Pretty innovative IMO.
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Selway and J&G have it in stock.

http://www.selwayarmory.com/inceptor...box-of-20.html

http://www.jgsales.com/-p-99497.html

They have the ARX loading in other calibers as well. Seems like Ruger was involved in this brand at some point.

Haven't had time to check if Underwood is using the ARX projectiles or another one in some of their copper or composite round offerings.

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