Fighting hoarders, preppers, and panicking people to get ammo

HappyCamper said:

Sooooo OP....

How many IS enough rounds? I am very curious to know what you think is too much.

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tss1004 said:

I am not a prepper. I don't keep any ammo stocked up at all. Shame on you selfish people hoarding all the ammo. .gov needs to redistribute and you must relinquish your fair share.

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AntiGun said:

Arguing about a specific number is the same as arguing about calibers. Everyone can cite some example of how their opinion is right.

My point being that there are preparations and then there are absurdities. No man/family is an island forever. If you live in the east coast metro area and think you can prep enough to be self sufficient and protected from your neighbors forever then you are ignoring the practicalities of where you live.

Stocking 20k rounds of 9mm in Nowhere,Wyoming is not the same as keeping 20k rounds of 9mm in Fallston,Maryland which is essentially a suburb of the DC,Balt metro area.

To each as he sees fit for his circumstance but ridiculous is still ridiculous.

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HappyCamper said:

Sooooo OP....

How many IS enough rounds? I am very curious to know what you think is too much.

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TxAggie said:

My problem was, it took me 15 years of marriage (and Obama) to convince my wife we needed guns in the house. Since July, I've gotten 3! It never even occurred to me that ammo would get like this though.

So now I'm going from no guns to 3 and looking at learning to reload! A lot of it is due to this forum which I found a year ago, so I just wanted to say Thank You to all the support everyone gives here.

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AntiGun said:

Can I have your share of 9mm?

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TxAggie said:

You never know, those hoarders may just be the people that have enough extra to lend you some.

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AntiGun said:

Arguing about a specific number is the same as arguing about calibers. Everyone can cite some example of how their opinion is right.

My point being that there are preparations and then there are absurdities. No man/family is an island forever. If you live in the east coast metro area and think you can prep enough to be self sufficient and protected from your neighbors forever then you are ignoring the practicalities of where you live.

Stocking 20k rounds of 9mm in Nowhere,Wyoming is not the same as keeping 20k rounds of 9mm in Fallston,Maryland which is essentially a suburb of the DC,Balt metro area.

To each as he sees fit for his circumstance but ridiculous is still ridiculous.

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plinkerton said:

You can have some of mine when my .40 paperwork clears MSP.

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AntiGun said:

I've had enough fighting with the preppers, panicky people, and hoarders.
Ammo online is gone.
Ammo disappears from the stores as fast as they place it on the shelf, sometimes it does not even make it to the shelf.
At what point do the hoarders, panicky people and preppers have enough?

I went to Fallston to buy two boxes of WWB 9mm for my wife to practice with so as to not use up expensive SD rounds and there was a line of people staring at an empty cabinet. The younger clerk explained to me they had just sold out of the 338 boxes of 9mm they put out today. One person bought 40 boxes. Mind you these are 100 round boxes some of which he had to keep stacked on the floor near his feet due to lack of space. The clerk then tells me they have sold 7,000,000 rounds in 3 months, most of that being in the last month. Yes that is 7 million from only one Walmart albeit in a more affluent area than most.

I don't care how many guns you have you can't fire more than a few of them in a defensive situation and you're not going to be reloading hundreds upon hundreds of times. The probability of a single household surviving an extended defensive situation involving dozens of repeated attacks is going to be low no matter what you have, short of an old missile silo and a tank.

I'm all for being prepared for disasters or civil disruption but you guys that are hoarding and prepping for armageddon are living in the wrong part of the country. The east coast metro areas are screwed if something severe happens here. The best we can hope for in the metro areas are for disruptions followed by restoration of order within weeks, keeping our families and neighbors safe in the meantime. Otherwise, welcome to Sarajevo.

For those of you getting ready for revolution you really should plan a little better. The term was actually used at me in Walmart today by an older clerk who decided to take off his tinfoil hat and explain how the Newtown shooting 'actually' happened. He exclaimed the bushmaster was not found on the school grounds and was really placed there to give plausiblity to disarmament of the public to stop the upcoming revolution. Ahh conspiracies, the stuff of revolutions. Revolutions happen with groups fighting to overthrow or repel an unwanted authority. Revolutions don't happen based on you holing up in your 'bunker' with tens of thousands of rounds of ammo and MRE's. Revolutions happen with groups in the open not from individuals behind locked doors.

Calm the **** down already.

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tss1004 said:

You must be new to this gun culture thing. Availability as well as cost waxes and wanes to varying degrees. If you've been a serious shooter long enough, there are economic benefits to keeping some on hand for times like these.

Granted, these are the leanest times I've ever seen. But if you didn't see this day coming, you haven't been very observant.

This is a generalization, and I'm not busting your chops so much as making a broad observation. It wasn't very long ago that .22lr was $10 a 500 pack, 9mm was $7 for a 100 round WWB pack, and winchester brass cased .223 55gr FMJ was $8 for 40 rounds. These were retail, non-volume walmart prices. Watch those prices climb incrementally and anyone paying attention would likely plan for the day when this happened.

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tss1004 said:

I am not a prepper. I don't keep any ammo stocked up at all. Shame on you selfish people hoarding all the ammo. .gov needs to redistribute and you must relinquish your fair share.

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AntiGun said:

Arguing about a specific number is the same as arguing about calibers. Everyone can cite some example of how their opinion is right.

My point being that there are preparations and then there are absurdities. No man/family is an island forever. If you live in the east coast metro area and think you can prep enough to be self sufficient and protected from your neighbors forever then you are ignoring the practicalities of where you live.

Stocking 20k rounds of 9mm in Nowhere,Wyoming is not the same as keeping 20k rounds of 9mm in Fallston,Maryland which is essentially a suburb of the DC,Balt metro area.

To each as he sees fit for his circumstance but ridiculous is still ridiculous.

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AntiGun said:

I've always had shotguns and rifles while occassionally buying the odd box of handgun ammo. True enough I've not been stockpiling for years but availability was never the issue before, that it is now. This is worse than '06 or '08.

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retrorichard said:

Folks- reloading is safe, and fun.

At the same time, I haven't actually shot my reloads...so maybe I shouldn't say anything.

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AntiGun said:

Arguing about a specific number is the same as arguing about calibers. Everyone can cite some example of how their opinion is right.

My point being that there are preparations and then there are absurdities. No man/family is an island forever. If you live in the east coast metro area and think you can prep enough to be self sufficient and protected from your neighbors forever then you are ignoring the practicalities of where you live.

Stocking 20k rounds of 9mm in Nowhere,Wyoming is not the same as keeping 20k rounds of 9mm in Fallston,Maryland which is essentially a suburb of the DC,Balt metro area.

To each as he sees fit for his circumstance but ridiculous is still ridiculous.

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