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Old August 14th, 2019, 04:03 PM #31
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He's not the worst FFL I've used. Is there a written source from the MSP or similar saying the HQL/77R/Wait is not needed for receivers other then banned?
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Old August 14th, 2019, 06:11 PM #32
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What idiot FFL is this?

When stuff like this happens, people need to name the FFL. Let everyone know what idiots they are.
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Old August 14th, 2019, 06:54 PM #33
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Curiously enough the paperwork went back and forth a couple times with the MSP who never bothered to correct him. I figured he was messing a few things up on the paperwork, but I just let him roll with it.
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Old August 14th, 2019, 09:22 PM #34
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https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizati...edFirearms.pdf

Those are regulated firearms. Everything below “handgun” is now banned, but grandfathered. The receiver of the firearm is considered regulated still, but can be purchased. An “AK-47” receiver is a firearm and MSP considers them regulated, but the receiver itself is not an AK-47 and thus not banned. An “AK pistol” is not a banned weapon as the law lists out assault LONG GUNS of various names that are banned. MSP (and COMAR) effectively treat an SBR as a pistol with the sole exception (that I can find) where it is considered a rifle for OAL (and I think evil feature) test.

Something that is NOT a handgun and is not the serialized part of a regulated firearm need not be transferred on a 77r. 77r can also be done VOLUNTARILY. So there isn’t anything wrong with an FFL requiring you to do one. It’s their business and they can freely not provide the business to you if you don’t want to comply with their rules.

That said I’d say thank you, but no. I wouldn’t want to pay the extra $10, deal with the hassle of driving back to them again, unnecessarily have the receiver registered with MSP, etc. just because they have bad info or want me to jump through extra hoops that the law does not require.
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Old August 15th, 2019, 06:46 AM #35
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This all goes along with a post I made on another thread that was about Cash & Carry AR-15 complete lowers from a Industry Partner.

I still donít understand how they are selling these as Cash & Carry??? I understand the AR-10 being a simple 4473 and out the door, but some must be selling AR-15 lowers as Cash & Carry.
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Old August 15th, 2019, 07:39 AM #36
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huh? didnt you just say you have a deposit on it and plan to go back to get it? how can you not remember which FFL has the AR10 lower and requires the 77r?


I remember the name of the FFL I do not recall if the name is taken from a fluffy animal. But there could of been a fluffy animal there or related to the shop


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Old August 15th, 2019, 07:44 AM #37
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I remember the name of the FFL I do not recall if the name is taken from a fluffy animal. But there could of been a fluffy animal there or related to the shop


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If you know the name, you would know whether the name is a furry animal clever like a Fox.
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If you know the name, you would know whether the name is a furry animal clever like a Fox.


Unless the furry animal has a weird name then itís probably not named after the shop but it does have a fluffy animal mascot


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Old August 15th, 2019, 08:13 AM #39
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I don't understand the hesitation in naming an FFL that literally wasn't doing their job correctly...2A all the way for me, thank you very much.
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Old August 15th, 2019, 08:35 AM #40
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Interesting, my FFL made me do the 77r and wait for a Remington 700 action.
2 weeks ago I bought an Aero Precision M5E1 AR10 from a friend. I took it to a FFL local to me and was told I had to do a 77r which I did.. My friend purchased a Scar17 and walked out with it after the NICS check.
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