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Old September 4th, 2018, 09:13 PM #1
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Hypothetical Binary Trigger - what to do

Asking for a friend.

Binary trigger installed on an AR. Oct. 1, 2018 - "friend" doesn't want to wake up a felon.

What to do with the Franklin Binary Trigger?

Is it your a felon if it is installed only? Or is it simple owning it - not even if it is installed - just in package - which it isn't but just asking.

Is there anything legal that can be done to maintain ownership other then uninstalling it from the AR and burying it in the backyard? The friend wanted to install it on a new .22LR AR - much more fun at .03 cents per round then .20 cents per round but not friend not so sure what to do.
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Asking for a friend.

Binary trigger installed on an AR. Oct. 1, 2018 - "friend" doesn't want to wake up a felon.

What to do with the Franklin Binary Trigger?

Is it your a felon if it is installed only? Or is it simple owning it - not even if it is installed - just in package - which it isn't but just asking.

Is there anything legal that can be done to maintain ownership other then uninstalling it from the AR and burying it in the backyard? The friend wanted to install it on a new .22LR AR - much more fun at .03 cents per round then .20 cents per round but not friend not so sure what to do.
I don't give legal advice and this is not legal advice, but if it were me, I would look to the words of the statute and I would discover that the ban on possession does not require that the device be installed.
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Looks like if you already own it, you're okay. The bill is weird, though, since it says "has applied to BATF for approval" to own the device - but we all know there's no such request or approval mechanism. More silliness. Makes me want to go buy one, just because.
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Looks like if you already own it, you're okay. The bill is weird, though, since it says "has applied to BATF for approval" to own the device - but we all know there's no such request or approval mechanism. More silliness. Makes me want to go buy one, just because.
No, I don't think so. I think it says you had to own it prior to 10/1/8 AND apply to the ATF AND own it legally under Federal law.
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Sell it to a VA resident. I just sold mine as it didn't do anything for me.
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No, I don't think so. I think it says you had to own it prior to 10/1/8 AND apply to the ATF AND own it legally under Federal law.
Can they enforce a law that has unattainable requirements? There's no way to apply to the ATF for any approval. Federally these aren't regulated.
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Can they enforce a law that has unattainable requirements? There's no way to apply to the ATF for any approval. Federally these aren't regulated.

Maybe / maybe not. The question is do you want to be the one who tries to test the limits of the law. I know I donít have the financial resources. Iím unloading mine too at a big loss and going with a SD3G. If the law gets overturned I guess can buy new ones.


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I keep sticking on the word "Applied".

Even though the ATF has said they have no mechanism for approving an application, the law states you only need to have applied - not have received approval.
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