Storing ammo - long term

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  • Pinecone

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    Feb 4, 2013
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    Military ammo can with a dessicant bag in each can. Stored in temp controlled basement. I have surplus ammo from the late 50s and reloads from my dad from the late 60s.. all still go bang.

    And it continues. :D
     

    Bountied

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    Apr 6, 2012
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    Military ammo can with a dessicant bag in each can. Stored in temp controlled basement. I have surplus ammo from the late 50s and reloads from my dad from the late 60s.. all still go bang.

    But what size desiccant bags? 1lb or bigger? What ammo cans? 50Cal or the little 556 ones??? Geez I need to know!
     

    Pinecone

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    But what size desiccant bags? 1lb or bigger? What ammo cans? 50Cal or the little 556 ones??? Geez I need to know!

    Actually 5.56 came in the 50 cal size cans.

    The smaller cans were for .30 cal.
     

    Docster

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    Jul 19, 2010
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    Ok, but which one do I store my ammo in so I can sleep at night not worrying about it becoming unshootable?

    Given the same quality, why would one be less effective than the other? Only difference would be weight when filled. There are threads addressing what to look for in ammo cans regarding quality

    Get the reusable dessicant beads that change color when saturated with moisture. Recharges with time in microwave.
     

    Bountied

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    Given the same quality, why would one be less effective than the other? Only difference would be weight when filled. There are threads addressing what to look for in ammo cans regarding quality

    Get the reusable dessicant beads that change color when saturated with moisture. Recharges with time in microwave.

    I was being sarcastic. I didn't do the sarcasm emoji my bad.
     

    Rockzilla

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    Ammo cans 50 or Fat 50's also 81mm mortar tubes come in handy
    for storage, stack nicely, air tight and waterproof. picked up a bunch decades ago...some here and some there..;);)

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    Dodahdude

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    Oct 3, 2009
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    I store my factory ammo in different size military ammo cans. Every so often we hear them pop. Like a gas build up and the can release the pressure. Has anyone ever hear of this? Oh, I've opened the cans and haven't seen anything wrong.
     

    Chat-Bot

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    I store my factory ammo in different size military ammo cans. Every so often we hear them pop. Like a gas build up and the can release the pressure. Has anyone ever hear of this? Oh, I've opened the cans and haven't seen anything wrong.

    I've heard the pop from empty cans.
     

    Scrounger

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    Jul 16, 2018
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    I store my factory ammo in different size military ammo cans. Every so often we hear them pop. Like a gas build up and the can release the pressure. Has anyone ever hear of this? Oh, I've opened the cans and haven't seen anything wrong.

    Military ammo cans are air and watertight, if not damaged. The popping sound is the sides of the can flexing with temperature changes, it is from the pressure differences. If the can was closed when the temperature was 90 degrees and the temperature drops to 40 degrees, the can will pop. That is one of the major reasons it is sometimes difficult to open ammo cans, they have vacuum sealed.

    On a side note, if the can pops or is difficult to open, it means the rubber seal is good.
     

    Baldheaded

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    I am late to this tread but had "long term" been defined. Are we talking 5 years or 25 years? What I would like to know is how long can ammo just sit on a shelf in the box it came in before you should consider a different storage solution? I personally just put my ammo into 50cal steel containers right from the start because I never know how long it might be. I have shot ammo from 50 years ago and not had any issues this way.
     

    lazarus

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    I am late to this tread but had "long term" been defined. Are we talking 5 years or 25 years? What I would like to know is how long can ammo just sit on a shelf in the box it came in before you should consider a different storage solution? I personally just put my ammo into 50cal steel containers right from the start because I never know how long it might be. I have shot ammo from 50 years ago and not had any issues this way.

    To many factors. Where and how is it stored still? In the original boxes in someone’s attic in Florida is going to last a fraction of the time as someone storing it in a humidity controlled basement in Alaska.

    In a normal house with air conditioning used most of the hot and wet season, many decades before you’d worry about it being ruined. Probably centuries.

    It’s how anal do you want to be. Modern smokeless powders is produced with buffering compounds and the priming chemicals are pretty stable on their own. They ARE temperature sensitive. Stored hit they’ll break down significantly faster than stored at room temperature. Let alone stored cool or cold. Humidity has a fairly small effect unless it is stored in a condensing environment or one with rapid temperature changes and high humidity (IE gets warm with high humidity while the ammo is cold, causing condensation in the casing).

    Most people aren’t going to care about it lasting more than a few years or a decade or two. In which case, store it in your house. Done. It’ll probably still be fine half a century or more later without special precautions. But it’ll almost certainly be fine for 10-20 years.
     

    Bountied

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    Apr 6, 2012
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    To many factors. Where and how is it stored still? In the original boxes in someone’s attic in Florida is going to last a fraction of the time as someone storing it in a humidity controlled basement in Alaska.

    In a normal house with air conditioning used most of the hot and wet season, many decades before you’d worry about it being ruined. Probably centuries.

    It’s how anal do you want to be. Modern smokeless powders is produced with buffering compounds and the priming chemicals are pretty stable on their own. They ARE temperature sensitive. Stored hit they’ll break down significantly faster than stored at room temperature. Let alone stored cool or cold. Humidity has a fairly small effect unless it is stored in a condensing environment or one with rapid temperature changes and high humidity (IE gets warm with high humidity while the ammo is cold, causing condensation in the casing).

    Most people aren’t going to care about it lasting more than a few years or a decade or two. In which case, store it in your house. Done. It’ll probably still be fine half a century or more later without special precautions. But it’ll almost certainly be fine for 10-20 years.

    Jesus! stop it...
     

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